We will be going again next yearThis all looks amazing @SlimLizzy
If you do decide to go ahead with Mounjaro, could you let us know how it goes? I'm swithering about it. I don't want to refuse because the last time I did refuse some offered treatment, for arthritis, the doctors just told me to get on with it by myself then and I have had no contact with them ever since - just a prescription for pain killers from my GP. Even had to buy my own wheelchair, while others are given them by the NHS. Same happened with Carpel Tunnel syndrome - I didn't want surgery so the consultant washed his hands of me. All the same, I am wary of accepting the Mounjaro.12.1 today, down to 11.5 after a slice of pork pie. Not the most sensible snack but it's what hubby was eating/ offering!
Now the rain's stopped he's off to Sainsbury's so there'll be more diabetic-friendly foods available soon.
Think I'm going to say yes to Mounjaro. I can't continue with BGs like these every day and eggy burps, diarrhoea or constipation seem a small price to pay. Vomiting might be a bit too much though if it happens.
In more cheerful news, hubby and I have not only managed to find an NHS dentist, it's on our side of the river (this matters a lot in Southampton) and it's just over the road from Lidl. I'm stunned!
Earworms seem to be a familial trait. My mum is particularly vulnerable to aural triggers - I remember hours of entertainment on a caravan holiday where hubby and I would sing or play tunes in our bedroom and listen for my mum to start singing it. She never realised we were doing it on purposeI don't know why it came to mind, but I thought about the hymn "To be a pilgrim" (I always did like Vaughan Williams' version) and it has stuck in my head. I needed to find out more about it. I had always thought it was inspired by John Bunyon's "Pilgrim's Progress" but have only - after all these years - discovered that he wrote the original version. Now I can't get it out of my head.
I was just talking to a friend of mine about Mounjaro this morning. In one year, she has lost 5 stone, feels so much better, fitter and happier. She tells me she had bouts of sulphurous burps, a couple of instances of light diarrhoea, but all in all, only slight issues and she is 100% happy to be on it. She had been paying for it privately, but her gp put her on it a little while ago. I'm considering asking about it, I seem to meet most of the criteria, though my BMI is a bit lower than the score required. However, I have had Cancer, a heart attack, diabetes, i have sleep apnoea and mobility issues (( super-exhausted during short walks, and need a new knee and maybe hip).I know 2 other people who are new to Mounjaro and so far, both are very happy on it.( they have each lost 3stone) There's a chap in our village who is pretty unrecognisable due to his weight loss and he's on it too. Only you can decide.............I had Carpal Tunnel syndrome about 20 years ago and after various physio things, they offered me the steroid injection into the wrist, which I accepted. Not had any trouble with it sinceIf you do decide to go ahead with Mounjaro, could you let us know how it goes? I'm swithering about it. I don't want to refuse because the last time I did refuse some offered treatment, for arthritis, the doctors just told me to get on with it by myself then and I have had no contact with them ever since - just a prescription for pain killers from my GP. Even had to buy my own wheelchair, while others are given them by the NHS. Same happened with Carpel Tunnel syndrome - I didn't want surgery so the consultant washed his hands of me. All the same, I am wary of accepting the Mounjaro.
Of course. On this forum you're going to struggle to shut me up as it's my main outlet when family get fed up of me banging on about diabetes again.If you do decide to go ahead with Mounjaro, could you let us know how it goes?
Rude. Don't they want you to take responsibility for your own health? I have always maintained that a good health professional welcomes intelligent discussion. Same applies to teachers, which is probably why some of them not-so-secretly hated me.I don't want to refuse because the last time I did refuse some offered treatment, for arthritis, the doctors just told me to get on with it by myself then and I have had no contact with them ever since - just a prescription for pain killers from my GP.
Same story, different ailments. I was just told "you won't get one on the NHS" by my GP and waited until I got a backpayment of benefits, then bought the cheapest powerchair I could find new. It's very uncomfortable but a decent one would be over £3k and I can't justify that when I go out so rarely. Better for the family for the money to go towards keeping our elderly car on the road. It needs a new rear axle before the next MOT eeek.Even had to buy my own wheelchair, while others are given them by the NHS.
My mum refused surgery for her shoulder (torn rotator cuff). I don't know if there was a problem with the consultant, I know she had physio but but that may have been started before the referral for surgery. Were steroid injections not appropriate? I'm no expert so ignore me if that's a rubbish comment.Same happened with Carpel Tunnel syndrome - I didn't want surgery so the consultant washed his hands of me.
Me too, but I've read more accounts of gradual and even spectacular success than horror stories. No near-death complications unlike the 'flozins at any rate. If it doesn't work for me it's likely to be just a week or two of gastric upset with no long-term consequences and then a search for another medication. Your situation may be more complicated as you're already on insulin, but they wouldn't be likely to suggest MJ if they thought it was likely to go badly wrong I would have thought? It's so expensive they don't just dole it out like Metformin. Best of luck whatever you decide.All the same, I am wary of accepting the Mounjaro.
@debs248, you are so like me!Of course. On this forum you're going to struggle to shut me up as it's my main outlet when family get fed up of me banging on about diabetes again.
Rude. Don't they want you to take responsibility for your own health? I have always maintained that a good health professional welcomes intelligent discussion. Same applies to teachers, which is probably why some of them not-so-secretly hated me.
Same story, different ailments. I was just told "you won't get one on the NHS" by my GP and waited until I got a backpayment of benefits, then bought the cheapest powerchair I could find new. It's very uncomfortable but a decent one would be over £3k and I can't justify that when I go out so rarely. Better for the family for the money to go towards keeping our elderly car on the road. It needs a new rear axle before the next MOT eeek.
My mum refused surgery for her shoulder (torn rotator cuff). I don't know if there was a problem with the consultant, I know she had physio but but that may have been started before the referral for surgery. Were steroid injections not appropriate? I'm no expert so ignore me if that's a rubbish comment.
Me too, but I've read more accounts of gradual and even spectacular success than horror stories. No near-death complications unlike the 'flozins at any rate. If it doesn't work for me it's likely to be just a week or two of gastric upset with no long-term consequences and then a search for another medication. Your situation may be more complicated as you're already on insulin, but they wouldn't be likely to suggest MJ if they thought it was likely to go badly wrong I would have thought? It's so expensive they don't just dole it out like Metformin. Best of luck whatever you decide.
I hope you don't mind me saying I think you're more like me than my own mother. Without the internet I'd have thought I was an odd bod, now I know I'm normal, just different from most of my family. My paternal grandmother was most like me but there were still significant differences.@debs248, you are so like me!
I didn't know it was good for livers. Mine slightly underperforms but has returned to the same level it was in 2016 which is probably "my normal".The consultant for my liver problems wants me to go on to Mounjaro but the process of getting it is quite long so I have time to think about it.
I know Scotland has different prescribing guidelines but the basic principles don't change. On the other forum there have been several members taking insulin and given Mounjaro. Their insulin requirements have reduced, so care and monitoring are needed. The only absolute no-no is a Type 1 diagnosis I believe, this may be why she thought it was the insulin that meant they couldn't have it.However, she did say that she thought, although I was eligible, that diabetics on insulin were not appropriate for Mounjaro.
Having done a PGCE (although never taught for money) and coming from a family of teachers, I think there are some teachers who can't, or don't want to put in the effort. When he was a headmaster my dad was always complaining about staff members who shouldn't have become teachers!When it comes to taking responsibilty for your own health and your own learning, I'm with you. I was also unpopular at school as a result (long time ago now) but when a teacher myself was keen for my students to investigate and discuss - also made me a bit unpopular with some other staff members who just wanted students to learn, kind of by rote, instead of understanding and thinking for themselves.
The Maddy Prior version is rather lovely, isn't it? Neil knows the tune from somewhere but not as the Pilgrim tune. Apparently Vaughan Williams heard that song in a hostelry called "Monk's Gate", which is why he called it that when he set the Pilgrim's song to it. There are two other tunes (St Dunstan's by John Roberts 1870 and Moab by Charles W Douglas 1917) but I can't find them on the internet.I hope you don't mind me saying I think you're more like me than my own mother. Without the internet I'd have thought I was an odd bod, now I know I'm normal, just different from most of my family. My paternal grandmother was most like me but there were still significant differences.
I didn't know it was good for livers. Mine slightly underperforms but has returned to the same level it was in 2016 which is probably "my normal".
I know Scotland has different prescribing guidelines but the basic principles don't change. On the other forum there have been several members taking insulin and given Mounjaro. Their insulin requirements have reduced, so care and monitoring are needed. The only absolute no-no is a Type 1 diagnosis I believe, this may be why she thought it was the insulin that meant they couldn't have it.
Having done a PGCE (although never taught for money) and coming from a family of teachers, I think there are some teachers who can't, or don't want to put in the effort. When he was a headmaster my dad was always complaining about staff members who shouldn't have become teachers!
It's going to take more effort exploring ideas than just reciting facts but you have to ask why are you teaching at all if you haven't got the enthusiasm. We're a long way from my mum's day where if she wanted a higher education grant her choices were teaching or nursing.
Must go interact with my daughter - I've found the Pilgrim tune I remembered on an album by Maddy Prior and as she(daughter) is a music undergraduate I want to see if her college library has the score...
It's not the best recording but I found St Dunstan's on YouTube.There are two other tunes (St Dunstan's by John Roberts 1870 and Moab by Charles W Douglas 1917) but I can't find them on the internet.
That's a possibility. Usually for diabetes they seem to stop at lower doses than for weight loss so it's not guaranteed that you'll lose weight.Actually, I don't think Mounjaro is supposed to be good for livers - just that he thinks everything would be helped if I could get rid of some of the weight that I'm carrying.
Amazing picture.Encaustic painting ... a painting using wax with heat, in this case, I used an ordinary household iron....
I found this while looking for something elseTime for sleep, night night, I have to be up early to get all the recycle out and I haven't got it all ready yet...
Thank you @debs248 for the painting compliment...Amazing picture.
I found this while looking for something else
Beethoven’s ‘Für Elise’ alerts Taiwanese residents to take out their trash
Classical music cues cleaning time in Taiwan.www.classicfm.com
Like an ice cream van but far less fun.
Interesting video. I think I prefer Monk's Gate though - a much more catchy tune. That's why it's stuck in my head.It's not the best recording but I found St Dunstan's on YouTube.
That's a possibility. Usually for diabetes they seem to stop at lower doses than for weight loss so it's not guaranteed that you'll lose weight.
To the best of my knowledge everyone starts on the 2.5mg pens then gradually increases by 2.5mg each time. Weight loss isn't expected (although it may happen) until 10mg but many people prescribed it for diabetes achieve "good control" at the 5mg or 7.5mg dose and are therefore not prescribed the higher doses.
Am so pleased to read that you are getting help for Mrs L.Mrs L is progressing and after a family meeting with the mental health practitioner.
The carers are coming in and helping in the morning and evening.
It is apparent that I'm not doing as well mentally after the past few months and I have not only the dsn but also a face to face doctors appointment, and it's about my mental health mainly and I wasn't aware but the family have been concerned for a while now.
I have been told many things, now that the primary care has moved on for Mrs L
One of those things is I'm close to another breakdown. My anxiety, my depression has taken over my life, it's no wonder I do need help.
I will let you know what is happening.
And to add to this, I was told by the mental health practitioner that it could be me spending time in a home. And I'm not too happy about that.
Best wishes.
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