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What was your fasting blood glucose? (full on chat)

For clarification I am not anti LCHF. I do detest the whole tenor both on here and from proponents of LCHF that any criticism is purely bad science funded by big pharma, the food industry or the medical profession not listening to the truth or just the fake news media. Managing T2 diabetes by LC has become the new elite world view and no dissent or even helpful, evidence based, criticism will be tolerated. That really helps no one.
 
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ianpspurs said:
For clarification I am not anti LCHF. I do detest the whole tenor both on here and from proponents of LCHF that any criticism is purely bad science funded by big pharma, the food industry or the medical profession not listening to the truth or the fake news media. Managing T2 diabetes by LC has become the new elite world view and no dissent will be tolerated. That really helps no one.
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Indeed i have felt that proponents of LCHF can sound like practitioners of a cult where dissent is, sadly not tolerated. I also get a feeling this attitude is probably, in part at least, a response to the establishment not willing to be more open in listening to possible alternatives. But yes, I hear you...

EDIT : It was not my intention to offend anyone with my ‘cult’ reference and I profusely apologize if it offends anyone. It was my terrible way of making a point that sometimes the passion and fervor in some posts about LCHF feel somewhat overwhelming? overbearing? for those who are still learning. Terribly sorry again
 
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Shas3 said:
After being thrilled at my below 6.0 fasting sugar level this morning, I go to Starbucks (I usually go to a local coffee chain, but made an exception today) and order a Caffe Latte and the lovely lady hears me as Caramel Latte and gives me a drink... and I walk out happily and take my first sip and go EWWWWWWWWW...… I wasn't sure if I should chuck the 3$ beverage (well, where I live, 3$ gets you a tall drink!) or just walk longer after the sugar rush.... Well, I had some of the drink.... Bottom line, I am avoiding Starbucks … or at least tell the lady clearly next time and make sure I double check exactly what she gives me!!!! Not happy, but well…. and I will go back to my local coffee chain, I guess.....
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After the Starbucks fiasco numbers did go upto 9.2 or so but glad to report that a good walk and some green tea with cinnamon have it back at 6.5 or thereabouts

And by dinner time i am at 5.2.. but that drink felt so alien..... after months of no sugar!!
 
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gennepher said:
Woke up 6:30 this morning from a horrible science fiction dream where someone suddenly put me in a white (ball) bubble suit (?) I am completely enclosed but there is a clear window to see through. But no one else is, and others look aghast. It is difficult moving in a bubble because I cannot use my legs. Then the man puts something through the clear plastic into my mouth and everything goes black. A short while later in the nightmare I am still alive but still in bubble.

Then the real life bathroom beckons very urgently, and I stumble out of bed groggily, still in the dream...

I am still shaking from that nightmare, but manage to take a fbg reading...
8.1
Blimey that is lowest fbg in awhile (or forever, I haven’t got my log book in bed).

With black coffee and chocolate now. (I found the missing coffee in grocery shopping in car boot yesterday, it got left there with the fiasco with the drain repair people.)

I am still shaking from that nightmare. Going to make a second coffee. All I want to do is sleep, but I am not closing my eyes again.

There is sun just touching the tops of trees in the garden. As soon as I come to properly I am out there...

Take care. Hope all your dreams were beautiful ones, and that Father Nightmare did not visit you.

>^..^<
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Glad you found the coffee!! See my earlier post about Starbucks fiasco
 
PenguinMum said:
wishing you well for good results in your individual tests.
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Thanks PM...a spot on result for me...so not back there for another three weeks...also found my favourite prosecco still on offer so bought a couple of bottles...feeling pleased with myself on this beautiful sunny day...on the way home roof down...foot down off we went... now a coffee in the garden with 'Plumpy' who just loves to sunbathe.
 
ianpspurs said:
Managing T2 diabetes by LC has become the new elite world view and no dissent or even helpful, evidence based, criticism will be tolerated. That really helps no one.
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ian I find it difficult to believe you are not anti low carb given the tenor of your posts on the failure of low carb to deliver the BG & other results you aspire to...not dissimilar to the proponents of LCHF you detest & complain about so regularly.
 
Shas3 said:
ndeed i have felt that proponents of LCHF can sound like practitioners of a cult where dissent is, sadly not tolerated.
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Shas I am certain you did not intend to offend with this post...however I feel offended since I do advocate a LCHF approach to my diabetes management...I have no objection to any other T2 diabetic trying an alternative regime...I would never subscribe to cult behaviour...never push my views on others...I recognise there are alternative methods of diabetes control...if asked for advice on how I control my BG I would happily give it...I applaud all diabetics doing their level best to manage their diabetes whichever method they use...lets not blame or judge surely we face enough criticism from those not living with or ignorant of this condition.
 
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Bubbsie said:
ian I find it difficult to believe you are not anti low carb given the tenor of your posts on the failure of low carb to deliver the BG & other results you aspire to...not dissimilar to the proponents of LCHF you detest & complain about so regularly.
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You are fully entitled to your opinion and I absolutely respect everyone else who shares that view. It will surprise no one that I reiterate that I am not anti LCHF I am ambivalent and aware it has limitations. I would like to feel there was room for more nuanced views of the efficacy of LCHF for every T2.
 
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Shas3 said:
After being thrilled at my below 6.0 fasting sugar level this morning, I go to Starbucks (I usually go to a local coffee chain, but made an exception today) and order a Caffe Latte and the lovely lady hears me as Caramel Latte and gives me a drink... and I walk out happily and take my first sip and go EWWWWWWWWW...… I wasn't sure if I should chuck the 3$ beverage (well, where I live, 3$ gets you a tall drink!) or just walk longer after the sugar rush.... Well, I had some of the drink.... Bottom line, I am avoiding Starbucks … or at least tell the lady clearly next time and make sure I double check exactly what she gives me!!!! Not happy, but well…. and I will go back to my local coffee chain, I guess.....
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Ouch...yuck...you know immediately don't you?

In future chuck something that doesn't taste right or too much sugar.

I drink/eat it because I have paid good money for it. But I won't in the future. It is not worth it.
Hugs x
>^..^<
 
Bubbsie said:
Shas I am certain you did not intend to offend with this post...however I feel offended since I do advocate a LCHF approach to my diabetes management...I have no objection to any other T2 diabetic trying an alternative regime...I would never subscribe to cult behaviour...never push my views on others...I recognise there are alternative methods of diabetes control...if asked for advice on how I control my BG I would happily give it...I applaud all diabetics doing their level best to manage their diabetes whichever method they use...lets not blame or judge surely we face enough criticism from those not living & ignorant of this condition.
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Terribly sorry and I must apologize profusely!!!!! I didn’t mean to offend anyone at all... I must definitely be a lot more careful how i word my posts. I was obviously exaggerating... So Sorry!!
 
gennepher said:
Ouch...yuck...you know immediately don't you?

In future chuck something that doesn't taste right or too much sugar.

I drink/eat it because I have paid good money for it. But I won't in the future. It is not worth it.
Hugs x
>^..^<
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Yes ... one sip and i wanted to go back and demand an explanation but decided to let it be. I probably had half of it and chucked the rest. Hope you have a great day!!
 
Bubbsie said:
Thanks PM...a spot on result for me...so not back there for another three weeks...also found my favourite prosecco still on offer so bought a couple of bottles...feeling pleased with myself on this beautiful sunny day...on the way home roof down...foot down off we went... now a coffee in the garden with 'Plumpy' who just loves to sunbathe.
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Sounds idyllic. The KittenCat loves to sunbathe too. ^. .^ :)
 
Shas3 said:
Yes ... one sip and i wanted to go back and demand an explanation but decided to let it be. I probably had half of it and chucked the rest. Hope you have a great day!!
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I would have taken it back in and told the harista of her mistake.

But then, I would not have been in Starbuck's in the first place. ;) $3 for coffee? ??? !!! :)
 
Bubbsie said:
Thanks PM...a spot on result for me...so not back there for another three weeks...also found my favourite prosecco still on offer so bought a couple of bottles...feeling pleased with myself on this beautiful sunny day...on the way home roof down...foot down off we went... now a coffee in the garden with 'Plumpy' who just loves to sunbathe.
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Double winner for result and prosecco! Driving with the roof down on a day like this must be brilliant. Enjoy the sunbathing both of you.
 
SaskiaKC said:
I would have taken it back in and told the harista of her mistake.

But then, I would not have been in Starbuck's in the first place. ;) $3 for coffee? ??? !!! :)
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I will tell her tomorrow.... and i was trying to “treat” myself to a “international chain” coffee and picked the courage to spend almost thrice of my usual “local” coffee... lessons learnt
 
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