Who are you voting for in the general election 2017?

[wolfie53]

Having lunch with friends today we discussed who we'd vote for. Interestingly, we were all swayed by the parties' manifestos on the NHS. Labour for me, what do others think (if you care to share, understand some find it personal)

@notafanofsuger Me thinks cos you started this thread which has had so many replies in such a short time...you should be the next PM!!!!

 

[maglil55]

Don't be taken in by liars!

I'm not. I look things up myself. As I've said already it's what I used to do - research and dissect , and over 37 years I've dissected a lot from all parties.

 

[dbr10]

I'm not. I look things up myself. As I've said already it's what I used to do - research and dissect , and over 37 years I've dissected a lot from all parties.

Anyway. Cheer up everybody. By Friday it will all be over - then we can spend the next two years negotiating a trade deal with the EU which is worse than the one we have now. Simples. And such a very cunning plan it could be one of Baldrick's.

 

[noblehead]

Let us hope that whoever gets in deals with the current threat to our great nation, appalling scenes in London and Manchester and my heart goes out to the people effected by those evil acts. .

 

[Mr_Pot]

"no deal is better than a bad deal" is complete nonsense.

So if you were negotiating your position would be "however bad the deal is I am going to accept it" ?

 

[Prem51]

None of your examples show a government policy to privatize the health service, they are just scare mongering stories. The fact is if Mr Corbyn and his cronies had their way this country would be bankrupt very quickly and then there would be a real threat to our health service and pensions. Look at what has happened to Greece, a prime example of what happens to a country that lived beyond its means.

Austerity has not helped Greece, or the UK. It has led to a deterioration of standards of living, health and education services and welfare provision for the majority of the people.
The only country to reject austerity is the only country to actually improve their economic situation, That country is Iceland, which you will not hear anything about in the mainstream media.

 

[dbr10]

Let us hope that whoever gets in deals with the current threat to our great nation, appalling scenes in London and Manchester and my heart goes out to the people effected by those evil acts. .

We must carry on and not give in to fear.

 

[dbr10]

So if you were negotiating your position would be "however bad the deal is I am going to accept it" ?

No. No deal IS the worst deal. I would certainly not start from a point where I refuse to say what my terms are likely to be. If I negotiate with you and ask what are your terms and you won't say, then I just offer you nothing.

 

[dbr10]

Austerity has not helped Greece, or the UK. It has led to a deterioration of standards of living, health and education services and welfare provision for the majority of the people.
The only country to reject austerity is the only country to actually improve their economic situation, That country is Iceland, which you will not hear anything about in the mainstream media.

No it has not. Nor could it. After five years if austerity they have made no progress and the economy is 25% smaller. In terms of the UK, comparisons with Greece were always ludicrous, since they reschedule their debt over a much shorter period than we do.

 

[Prem51]

I can understand why she wouldn't want to show her hand before negotiations, but saying she are going to walk away if she doesn't get what she wants isn't exactly going to facilitate productive negotiations.

 

[dbr10]

I can understand why she wouldn't want to show her hand before negotiations, but saying she are going to walk away if she doesn't get what she wants isn't exactly going to facilitate productive negotiations.

It certainly won't.

 

[Simon84]

So if you were negotiating your position would be "however bad the deal is I am going to accept it" ?

Well Corbyn sure will! But hey,ho-He's promising the land of milk and honey with a piggy bank full of cobwebs but that's all good with the snowflakes it would appear.

 

[dbr10]

None of your examples show a government policy to privatize the health service, they are just scare mongering stories.

Services have been privatised under both Labour and Conservative Government. The changes brought in by Andrew Lansley - you know, the changes they had no plans to make, which he had been working on for two years in opposition - introduced more price competition in a way which drives down standards and leads to a greater role for the private sector.
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The fact is if Mr Corbyn and his cronies had their way this country would be bankrupt very quickly and then there would be a real threat to our health service and pensions. Look at what has happened to Greece, a prime example of what happens to a country that lived beyond its means.[/QUOTE]

You have no basis for this assertion and comparisons with Greece do not hold as I have already mentioned. What is true is that Greece is a relatively poor country and there is a big difference between the northern European countries and those in the south. Money given to Greece went to the banks. It was not used for productive investment to improve the economy and help barrow the gap between north and south.

 

[Brittleas]

Why doesn't Theresa May tell us the whole story how she treats her diabetes? Type 1 diabetics are dying from insulin shock, trying to maintain their balance by pricking their fingers and drawing blood to test for glucose. This is the only treatment available on the NHS. If you can afford £100 a month you can have a Libre Sensor. I will be voting SNP.

 

[Brittleas]

 

[Brittleas]

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I'm voting SNP. Scotland is lucky in that if we can get a second #indyref we can sit at the big table in Europe. Germany and Spain are 2 countries where the Libre Sensor is given to Type 1 diabetics that need it. We have invested in this powerful trading bloc for a generation, and now we are paying to leave it. As Westminster kept telling us... We are better together!

 

[Bluetit1802]

Why doesn't Theresa May tell us the whole story how she treats her diabetes? Type 1 diabetics are dying from insulin shock, trying to maintain their balance by pricking their fingers and drawing blood to test for glucose. This is the only treatment available on the NHS. If you can afford £100 a month you can have a Libre Sensor. I will be voting SNP.

She did tell us, in an interview recently. She told ITV’s Robert Peston during a Facebook live interview that fellow sufferers should not allow the illness to hold them back.

Theresa May has disclosed that she injects herself with insulin four or five times a day as part of her routine for dealing with type one diabetes. ........ Among the 40,000 people who submitted questions was a fellow diabetic who asked how she coped. The Prime Minister, whose condition was diagnosed in 2012 after she experienced rapid weight loss, replied: “I am a type one diabetic. “That means when I eat, I have to inject insulin, which I do. I will be injecting myself four or five times a day… You just get into a routine. You depend on that insulin and you just build that routine into your daily life. “The crucial thing to me is being a diabetic doesn’t stop you from doing anything.”

Has the SNP promised to provide Libre sensors to all diabetics? Have any of the parties? I think there are far more important things on their agendas.

 

[Brittleas]

She did tell us, in an interview recently. She told ITV’s Robert Peston during a Facebook live interview that fellow sufferers should not allow the illness to hold them back.

Theresa May has disclosed that she injects herself with insulin four or five times a day as part of her routine for dealing with type one diabetes. ........ Among the 40,000 people who submitted questions was a fellow diabetic who asked how she coped. The Prime Minister, whose condition was diagnosed in 2012 after she experienced rapid weight loss, replied: “I am a type one diabetic. “That means when I eat, I have to inject insulin, which I do. I will be injecting myself four or five times a day… You just get into a routine. You depend on that insulin and you just build that routine into your daily life. “The crucial thing to me is being a diabetic doesn’t stop you from doing anything.”

Has the SNP promised to provide Libre sensors to all diabetics? Have any of the parties? I think there are far more important things on their agendas.

'More important things on their agendas' or do you mean yours? I consider saving diabetic's lives VERY important. And Mrs May did NOT give a full disclosure. You should know that administering insulin is only half of the treatment. It has to be controlled by monitoring blood glucose. For those on the NHS it means drawing blood frequently. For a privileged few it means wearing a Libre sensor.

For your information, the SNP are listening to evidence from a Holyrood committee and there has been some movement insomuch that they are considering the recommendations from specialists.

 

[zand]

I'm voting SNP. Scotland is lucky in that if we can get a second #indyref we can sit at the big table in Europe. Germany and Spain are 2 countries where the Libre Sensor is given to Type 1 diabetics that need it. We have invested in this powerful trading bloc for a generation, and now we are paying to leave it. As Westminster kept telling us... We are better together!

........If the EU decide they will allow an independent Scotland to join, which they may not.

 

[zand]

For those on the NHS it means drawing blood frequently.

I think @Bluetit1802 knows that already. We T2's also need to test our BGs in the same way that T1's do, how else are we to keep good control? We usually have to pay for our own test strips though, we don't normally get them on the NHS.