I'm guessing that the removed posts all belong to one poster who recently returned to the site and has some very (to put it kindly) eccentric if not downright dangerous theories about hypoglycemia and insists on pushing them on unsuspecting newbies.
So, perhaps we could consider removing the text but replacing with 'Edited due to REASON'?
Anything done in the forum has a log assigned to it - from the first post, we can see 4 posts have been deleted:
http://puu.sh/kHul7/b7728b4925.png
http://puu.sh/kHukV/c15a30cf27.png
And for the final post, http://puu.sh/kHuvP/3ef0717c36.png
@diamondnostril - your point "If the Deletions and Edits have been made by the Moderators for reasons of "safety", so that "unacceptable" opinions or inaccurate/dangerous information are not displayed, then why isn't this clearly stated? This is a reasonable thing, so why not just say it?" is valid - we're working on the forum so all deleted/edited posts can be footnoted on the page, and also the reason. That'll clear up the bulk of confusion.
@Giverny is currently on holiday so please tag @Administrator for attention.
We've un-deleted the posts from the http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/getting-bloods-under-7-0mmol.85501/ so people can see the posts being referenced. I think everyone would be in agreement that the posts un-deleted are dangerous, however, perhaps we should discuss what people would like to happen to posts that are like this? In this case, they were certainly made for the point of safety.
As a community, we have the option to leave these posts, however they do require some sort of caveat. We wouldn't perhaps want others (e.g. newly diagnosed) making assumptions off potentially dangerous and/or incorrect information.
So, perhaps we could consider removing the text but replacing with 'Edited due to REASON'?
edited in Situ - have a note about who edited them.
@tim2000s mods/admin can see those so nothing is ever 'lost' as it were. We're working on tweaking the code so people can see why a post was edited/deleted and by who, rather than see the post itself (as otherwise that defeats the object!)
Thanks Antony -
We'd be very interested to discuss what could be done so not to stifle conversation, but somehow hide/edit posts that could be dangerous/misleading.
Currently, any posts edited or deleted will be obvious to a) the user (OP who made the post) and b) moderators/admin as they can see the activity log.
Our options are:
At the moment B is quickest with D where we'd like to end up. As ever, if there are any concerns, please tag @Giverny and @Administrator and we're happy to disclose the post text.
- A - Leave as is (no-one knows other than OP/admin/moderators)
Probably not the best idea (this thread is a perfect example why!) but gets around dangerous information not being visible at all. Only concerns are, as you say, what some people consider dangerous or unacceptable is a wider issue.- B - Moderators could leave a post if deleting a post, or update a post if making an edit - 'A post was deleted by MODERATOR X because REASON Y' on deleted posts and similarly, 'This post was edited by MODERATOR X because REASON Y' in the 'edit' part of any edited posts. This is a simple work around solution - if the post was ever queried, we would be show the deleted post or edited contents.
- C - Leave the post
Probably not the best idea, simply from a misinformation POV.- D - Create a workaround where the post is edited/hidden, but could be seen if user's wanted to.
This is probably the most utilitarian scenario, however the concern about dangerous info still remains. User would have a window/box saying that this information was edited/deleted because of XYZ too as a warning before opening the text.
Only slight issue is that when posts have been edited, it sometimes make it tricky as the OP can overwrite the original text with their edited version, but one step at a time.
Thanks for being understanding - if knowledge is power, information is liberating and education is the premise of progress (according to Kofi Annan). We certainly don't want to censor anything, so posts like this are great to ensure we don't digress.
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