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Why am I not losing weight or improving bg?

Dickensfan said:
Mike I was being sarcastic actually, getting BG down as well as losing this 3stone I put on are my BIG issues, I just don't need anyone to tell me how to lose weight, that shipped sailed many years ago, I could tell others how to lose weight - if you don't mind my saying - some of the comments here (I may not stick around) I find to be extremely patronizing from people who don't even know me. I lost weight in the past through sheer strong will power - don't know how many times I lost stones, I also gave up smoking 80 cigs a day 3 years ago, through sheer will power did not use a 'crutch' to do so, as I believe in my mind working.

I'm sure many people on here who were told out of the blue that they had diabetes - type 2 specifically, like me did not take the news in their stride, I'm sure they were just as worried about what to do, and the mis-information as I was. Unfortunately, I don't know what any of you were like when you first were given the news, as I was not on the site at the time. Human nature being what it is, I reckon you got as big a shock as I did and wanted the right kind of advice, it's hard to see now as I just feel there are a lot of very smug people on here - not all of you, some are genuinely interested in lifting me from my depression about this news which for me was utterly devastating.

As for the other comments about LCHIF I'm not an idiot, it's not a quick fix, or a 'diet' programme as such, it is a change for life, but it is not one that I personally want to follow.

I'll leave it at that as I find too much information on here for someone scared and newly diagnosed to be just too much to take on board - but thanks for the help I did get.
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You may not need help with losing weight, but your history of gaining and losing indicates that maybe you need help with maintaining weight so you dont need to keep dieting.

I will add that I find your comment about using a crutch rather insulting. I do not agree that people have been smug. They have been confident in their choices, because it worked for them. But they have also stressed that you need to test and find out your own path, using their experiences freely as suggestions for things you could try while finding your own path.
 
Would any of the more established members be too cross with me if I mentioned that I didn't particularly like what I was being told about managing diet and BG at the beginning? I thought at that time that some of you were barking!
My bad.
I did reflect on the advice, and read more, and apply before pooh poohing it though. Hope that I redeemed myself.
 
Guess I was lucky @Pipp .... got the initial advice from those far more experienced than yours truly (and they know who they are) asked what I thought were the right questions, was happy to be corrected, tried it out and it worked. Paramount to me above all was reading their posts, not simply to me, but to others. Consistent, kind, encouraging and friendly and that taught me to trust advice I'd never have found anywhere else.:)
 
I was defensive at first, and it came out in some of my early posts. I really dug my heels in about testing and relinquishing bread, and it took me ages to convert back to butter from the plastic spreads I thought were so good for me. I capitulated over the meter, and through doing that realised I had to give up eating my normal quantities of bread. I then listened, learnt from those who had bought the T-shirt, and I have never looked back. I have been so grateful for all the support I got that I have stayed here, to keep learning and also to help the newly diagnosed.

Maybe I am a little smug, but if so I feel I have earned the right to be as it has been a long hard slog over the last 2 years to get my weight off then sustain it, get my cholesterol to ideal levels, and most of all my BS levels right down. I got there in the end and now it is no longer a hard slog. It's easy and enjoyable. This is all thanks to the good folk on this forum, smug or not.
 
Mike D said:
Guess I was lucky @Pipp .... got the initial advice from those far more experienced than yours truly (and they know who they are) asked what I thought were the right questions, was happy to be corrected, tried it out and it worked. Paramount to me above all was reading their posts, not simply to me, but to others. Consistent, kind, encouraging and friendly and that taught me to trust advice I'd never have found anywhere else.:)
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You make an important point @miked, that I did overlook in the beginning. That is that although the answers to my questions were addressed to me, they are for a much wider audience, as so many more read than post here. That is why we should not see information as being for our exclusive perusal.
 
My Nan used to have a saying for most things, one was "there's none so deaf as those who chose not to listen".....:singing:
 
Lindy1706 said:
I certainly no longer "count stuff" all I do is stick to natural foods, nothing in a packet and I only shop the outside of a supermarket. The only thing I buy packaged is Hellmans mayo.

I have a selection of go to meals that only put my BS up by 0.5 to 1.0 mmol, so I only now test new foods to see what the reaction is.

Go to meals are;

Chicken thighs roasted in herby duck fat, feta cheese , salad and mayo
Lamb steaks marinaded in Rosemary, thyme olive oil then cooked on the griddle and served with a salad of cucumber, tomato, onion and flat leaf parsley with olive oil
Pork chops griddled and served with Greek Salad
Steak served with blue cheese salad and mayo
Salmon steak baked in the oven with lemon and butter served with Asparagus
Roast Chicken and Broccoli
Smoked haddock with poached egg
Cheese omelette
Egg mayonnaise with mustard and cress
Avocado chicken and bacon salad
Mozzarella, tomato and basil salad with olive oil
Poached salmon with watercress and lemon mayo

I have also discovered that I can enjoy a glass or two of dry white wine and my BS levels remain the same.

All of the above foods are sourced from either local farmers markets, Aldi and Lidl or the special offer section of the main stream super markets and I spend on average 50 - 60 pounds per week to feed two of us which is a lot cheaper than all the convenience packaged food we used to buy.

Since starting this WOE on the 10th February I have lost 20 kilos and my BG is now a weekly average of 5.8

I am bouncing with energy and exercising daily a mix of walking, swimming, aqua classes and gym weights for strength building.




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Great job! Fantastic menu. I'm still waiting for my dinner invitation. Lol
 
debbiedoodles said:
What do you eat on fasting days please?
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I have normal breakfast and lunch...then skip dinner for 2 nights in a row...do this again the following week.
Fasting glucose comes down to around 5.0-5.5mmol after a couple of times. And the fasting numbers stays there...

It would creep back up if I often return to high carbs dinner...but repeat the process and it comes down again. Not on any medication.

I tend to avoid high carbs meals now even though the numbers will still be in good range, ~ 7.0mmol postmeal, because it tends to triggers intense hunger after that.
 
kokhongw said:
I have normal breakfast and lunch...then skip dinner for 2 nights in a row...do this again the following week.
Fasting glucose comes down to around 5.0-5.5mmol after a couple of times. And the fasting numbers stays there...

It would creep back up if I often return to high carbs dinner...but repeat the process and it comes down again. Not on any medication.

I tend to avoid high carbs meals now even though the numbers will still be in good range, ~ 7.0mmol postmeal, because it tends to triggers intense hunger after that.
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Oh I'm so glad you said higher carbs make you feel hungry, I thought I was imagining this! I know when I got into hflc I wasn't hungry but didn't lose weight. I'm now starting low carb and lot less fat. Cutting out cheese and cream etc as need to lose some cals. Thanks for your reply
 
I got my first FBG in fives yesterday after 6 days of IF. So it's doing something!

Give yourself a purple of weeks to really try it. It gets easier the more you do and saves a load of cooking!

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Borderline T2, serial yo-yo dieter but firmly sticking to LCHF with IF
 
Debmcgee said:
I got my first FBG in fives yesterday after 6 days of IF. So it's doing something!

Give yourself a purple of weeks to really try it. It gets easier the more you do and saves a load of cooking!

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Borderline T2, serial yo-yo dieter but firmly sticking to LCHF with IF
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That's fab well done. Did you do 6 days of 8/16? I'm trying to decide the best approach. X
 
Kristin251 said:
Which fasting method did you use?
Great job!
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I'm doing alternate days of 24 hour fasts dinner to dinner x


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Borderline T2, serial yo-yo dieter but firmly sticking to LCHF with IF
 
I tried 18/6 for two weeks a while back and it raised my bg and I didn't lose weight


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Borderline T2, serial yo-yo dieter but firmly sticking to LCHF with IF
 
Debmcgee said:
I tried 18/6 for two weeks a while back and it raised my bg and I didn't lose weight


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Borderline T2, serial yo-yo dieter but firmly sticking to LCHF with IF
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Yeah. I did 16/8 for 6 months or so. Liked it. Got addicted to coffeencream. But it did nothing for bg or weight.
Am thinking that some of us need to upgrade to bigger calibre. Am giving 24hr fasts a go for 2 weeks, Mon/Wed/Fri, and seeing how it goes.

So far, IR reduction is fantastic, hunger is totally manageable, but don't know about any weight loss - although you can guarantee that my body will be the most resistant of any. It is just inevitable. lol.
 
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