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Why seed oils are not good.

Are they all bad, or just certain brands? What about “organic” or cold pressed? We use mostly peanut oil for Asian stir-fry
 
LaoDan said:
Are they all bad, or just certain brands? What about “organic” or cold pressed? We use mostly peanut oil for Asian stir-fry
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Personally I avoid all seed oils and use animals fats for cooking. Why take the risk?
 
LaoDan said:
Are they all bad, or just certain brands? What about “organic” or cold pressed? We use mostly peanut oil for Asian stir-fry
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Have you tried coconut oil?

Peanut oil oxidizes at high heat, but coconut oil does not.
 
Personally, I do mostly use coconut, olive, avocado oils. My wife is Asian, sometimes I eat what the rest of the family eats, though smaller portions, and no rice lol

interested from a science , biology perspective , there’s lots of conflicting information out there.
 
LaoDan said:
Personally, I do mostly use coconut, olive, avocado oils. My wife is Asian, sometimes I eat what the rest of the family eats, though smaller portions, and no rice lol

interested from a science , biology perspective , there’s lots of conflicting information out there.
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Hit google up for studies and info on seeds oil, not hard to find info on how inflammatory they are.
 
I still use the one bottle of vegetable oil left in the house....to oil my home gym equipment - true. The original use of this type of by product was as a lubricant, so I am going back to the future.
 
Mbaker said:
I still use the one bottle of vegetable oil left in the house....to oil my home gym equipment - true. The original use of this type of by product was as a lubricant, so I am going back to the future.
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Then along came proctor and gamble who decided to feed it to people...
 
Mbaker said:
I still use the one bottle of vegetable oil left in the house....to oil my home gym equipment - true. The original use of this type of by product was as a lubricant, so I am going back to the future.
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Animal fat was used to make soap and candles, and used as axle grease. Use for one purpose doesn't mean something is not suitable for another purpose.
 
Mr_Pot said:
Animal fat was used to make soap and candles, and used as axle grease. Use for one purpose doesn't mean something is not suitable for another purpose.
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The differences are that the originating source of oil, and then the results that follow in populous use. I know correlation is not causation, but I believe common sense with repeatable outcomes trumps scientific dogma, with its get out clauses e.g. must have a randomised control trial; some for example poo poo the Virta health results. I'm with Shawn Baker results, results and more results.

Vegetable oils are part of the food axis of evil in my opinion, the trifecta of seed oils, grains and sugar. In societies with "natural" oils (and minimal to no sugar and grains), health outcomes are demonstrably better, (Big Fat Surprise, The Case Against Sugar, The P.E Diet, Eat Rich Live Long) when these 3 elements are introduced the results are always the same, when removed (by individuals lifestyles) the inverse.

It is possible to reel off many names on this site who have put T2DM into remission and removed seed oils; I could do similar with Dr's etc in the low carb space who are persuaded about the effects of seed oils and seen results with removal.

My bias is that "man made" opportunistic use for profit is a disaster, cotton, rapeseed, soy bean oils. This video offers references and in my view reasonably correlated evidence:


If you watched this, did you note the amount of natural saturated fats in the ancestral diets. As an aside, this video also explains how a high carb diet worked for the Kitavans - my hypothesis is that if you haven't been exposed to the trifecta, you don't get "broken" so the mechanisms to clear higher glucose loads are not compromised.
 
Mr_Pot said:
Animal fat was used to make soap and candles, and used as axle grease. Use for one purpose doesn't mean something is not suitable for another purpose.
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I'm guessing you haven't watched the video then.. the process of turning a lubricant into "food" is likely deleterious to human health as well as the end product.
Using animals fats in their natural state is something rather different what ever the purpose, food or lube?
 
bulkbiker said:
I'm guessing you haven't watched the video then.. the process of turning a lubricant into "food" is likely deleterious to human health as well as the end product.
Using animals fats in their natural state is something rather different what ever the purpose, food or lube?
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I was replying to @Mbaker 's implication that something is bad because it might have other or previous uses.
 
Butter or duck/goose fat for me. Wouldn't knowingly touch a seed oil with a ten foot pole.
 
Mr_Pot said:
I was replying to @Mbaker 's implication that something is bad because it might have other or previous uses.
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For me that would be too sweeping a position to adopt.

Humanity has shown brilliant change of use, such as the wheel for mills, horse and cart carriage, motor car etc. The video helps to illustrate that when we don't mess around with natures mostly "pre-packed" whole foods, the human vessel responds in a healthy manner; alternatively we can create "products" that have to go through several processes such as bleaching. Here's a typical vegetable oil cycle:

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If the above was shown on the packaging of oils, it would open up the real possibility of significant perception change.
 
Mbaker said:
For me that would be too sweeping a position to adopt.

Humanity has shown brilliant change of use, such as the wheel for mills, horse and cart carriage, motor car etc. The video helps to illustrate that when we don't mess around with natures mostly "pre-packed" whole foods, the human vessel responds in a healthy manner; alternatively we can create "products" that have to go through several processes such as bleaching. Here's a typical vegetable oil cycle:

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If the above was shown on the packaging of oils, it would open up the real possibility of significant perception change.
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Processing is another red herring, what is important is the end product.
Here is the typical process for drinking water....
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