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Yet another hospital food horror story

Discussion in 'Diabetes Discussions' started by JohnEGreen, Dec 3, 2018.

  1. Concordjan

    Concordjan Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Can't get there myself but I suppose could send my OH during visiting hours. Will do that if not home today.
     
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  2. Concordjan

    Concordjan Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I suppose it won't do me much harm having an extended fast but not ideal when under the weather.
     
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  3. Mr_Pot

    Mr_Pot Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    If it is only a day or two would it really do any harm to have some carbs?
     
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  4. Tophat1900

    Tophat1900 Type 3c · Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that's what I would do. Beats eating ****, which could make you feel even worse. I hope you get better soon.
     
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  5. lucylocket61

    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Expert

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    This is not a horror story. A type 2 having to eat a few carbs for a meal or two, or getting food from other sources is not a horror story.

    The way some type 1 diabetics are treated in hospital is, however, horrific and life threatening.

    We type 2 know what to expect in hospital with food choices. And the canteen choices. For planned stays we can work out a plan. Even unplanned stays usually involve visitors who can be asked to bring food once we know what is going on.

    Just like we do on holidays etc. We plan.

    Until low carbing is added as a recognised diet for health, the onus is on us to take the initiative.

    Considering how many hcp's don't even seem to know how to treat different types of diabetes, I wouldn't rely on any changes to dietary policies anyway.
     
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  6. JohnEGreen

    JohnEGreen Other · Master

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    I agree with you but if you said to a vegan just a few days eating meat would not do you any harm they would most definitely disagree but then their dietary choices are catered for.

    The same with Kosher and Halal.

    It's about choice and being denied it.
     
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  7. Paulm80

    Paulm80 · Well-Known Member

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    To be fair after a recent stint in hospital I thought the options were pretty good, easy enough to stay low carb, omelette , full fat yoghurt, salad, veg etc....
    Despite that the foods horrible and it all smells the same horrible hospital smell, so I’d rather go hungry anyway
     
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  8. Mr_Pot

    Mr_Pot Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I don't think that is really the same. Not eating vegan, Kosher or Halal is an ethical thing and even a small digression is serious to the believers. Having to eat a bit more carbs for a short time is a temporary inconvenience. There is also the fact that low carb is very vague, whereas the above diets have simple rules. Some would be happy if they can keep below 130g a day, some would expect steak or raw liver on the menu every day. Labelling items with their carb content seems more practical and would be very useful for those on Insulin.
     
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  9. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    So their "beliefs" and ethics about what they should be eating are catered for yet people eating a specific way to improve their health should not be catered for ...... in a hospital.
    Hmmm interesting perspective...
     
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  10. JohnEGreen

    JohnEGreen Other · Master

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    Except both with kosher and halal exceptions are allowed for health needs or requirements and in times of necessity.
     
  11. NicoleC1971

    NicoleC1971 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Low carb is going more mainstream so I would expect the 'diabetic' option to cater for this in a rational world where x % of hospital admissions (20 I think but I stand to be corrected). In the meantime the focus should be on fresh food with carb options to cater for the majority and to best fit the skimpy budget; as well as the diabs there has to be plenty of people who need the stodge because they are frail and elderly.
    Until then most of us are fortunate enough to a) fast b) get stuff brought in c) Visit the in hospital M & S to stock up on low carb goodies bearing in mind that we won't be moving much and therefore don't need to much re fuelling.
    I am type 1 and can eat carbs without it causing me either a crisis of conscience or long term ill health.
     
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  12. JohnEGreen

    JohnEGreen Other · Master

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    I think saying to a T2 diabetic in a hospital go on you can eat carbs for a few days it won't hurt is as wrong as when my non diabetic friends when offering me a cake or something similar say go on just one won't hurt you I know it will and say no in the hospital you don't get that choice and I have spent at odd times weeks and even months in hospital not just a couple of days.
     
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  13. NicoleC1971

    NicoleC1971 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I agree if you're in for a long haul but I also say no to cake/carbs on a regular basis and make other arrangements or regard a deviation as a mini experiment that won't be fatal.
     
  14. Mr_Pot

    Mr_Pot Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Eating a sandwich or two in hospital is not going to make the slightest difference to your health.
     
  15. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    And if you’re in for a month?
     
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  16. JohnEGreen

    JohnEGreen Other · Master

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    I beg to differ my health is my concern and I will decide what I consider as good or bad for it bye the way my last long stint in hospital was about 8 weeks

    And as I said It's about choice why should I be denied choice when others aren't. .
     
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  17. Concordjan

    Concordjan Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Back home now, had quite a decent cheese salad for lunch, just left the potato salad. After low carbing for three and half years it goes against the grain to eat something carby. Might have done if particularly tempting. Lunch and dinner were ok, just breakfast when I couldn’t eat anything.
    Now I have to rely on hubby’s ‘cooking’ for a few days, which could be worse than hospital!
     
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  18. jjraak

    jjraak Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Mmh so the Church of Lokarbi (making us LoKarbinarians..has a certain ring to it..:D )
    Pray once or twice a day at the alter of FRI-JARI & CUU-KA
    and in a reversal of lent, we GIVE UP a lot for 50 weeks a year
    and TAKE UP, certain things for 14 days and nights..(summer hols..;))

    I'm IN....Where do i sign up :happy:




    While i do agree that the costs, blah, blah, balh..are important.

    I do remembers reading several newspaper articles that T2 is THE Tsunami overwhelming the NHS,
    and part of that WAS hospital admissions.

    add in Diabetic complications are one of the leading causes of death over all.

    Whilst i agree we should cater to the General Populations beliefs, dietary restrictions through choice OR necessity.

    IF i ran a club where a lot of members where of a particular SET
    young or old perhaps, it might be thought sensible to respond and lay out options that would appeal to THAT large-ish core of customers.

    So, Games and consoles for the youngers might not be so welcome for those of an older age.

    Will it change..doubt it.
    As said too costly, and the point about doing that...is it COULD seem like an admission of defeat after all the years,
    was not something i had thought of, but does make sense to me, sadly...Reps before Deaths.:rolleyes:

    Might just get myself one of those survivalist Bug Out bags,
    and keep an ongoing re-fill in the fridge of a few EMERGENCY Rations:
    a few packets of Biltong, Pepparami, Pork Scratching, Baby bels etc...for the misses to bring up if ever i'm ever rushed in...:bag:;)
     
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  19. jjraak

    jjraak Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Nice to hear your back home..:)
    A 'like' for That...
    But gave a FUNNY for the husband quip.
    nice to see a sense of humour helping us through.

    Best wishes.
     
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  20. mariefrance

    mariefrance Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    Personally, I think the NHS should be much stronger on the differing dietary needs of people with various long-term conditions and providing good quality food to meet those needs - even if it just focused on the main conditions that people go into hospital with - if the NHS can't lead the way then who?
    Concordjan - hope the home cooking goes well
     
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