Type 2 Life

[Stallen]

Hi @Stallen hope you feel better soon. Maybe an early night and you wake refreshed in the morning.
Tomorrow is week 3 for my Cosentyx Injections - nothing to report as yet, was told it may take 4 - 6 wks. I have been reliant on the Tramadol for pain relief. Take Care

That's the plan early night, then see what the weather is like at 3am and hopefully hit the gym and take out some of the frustration of today.

I was lucky with my Bio treatment kicking in quickly, just stick with it and hopefully you'll get a good long term result from it.

 

[ickihun]

I am getting confused. My partner's bloods were high after Christmas and, after reading the forum, we started on a LCHF diet. I tried him with the 5:2 diet at the same time, but he finds it difficult to not pick in the evenings. We lost weight on the 5:2, but haven't lost any more since stopping it, though haven't actually put any on. I have been so careful with the carbs ...... no potatoes or starchy veg, no bread, no rice, nothing made from flour. We do have porridge made with water sometimes and we do have lentil soup sometimes. Other than that it has been meat/fish with cruciferous veg or salad for dinner,eggs of some description for breakfast, snacks of nuts, tins of fish, cheese, hummus and the occasional piece of fruit (not banana or melon). His bloods did come down to 5 -7, but have been higher lately, 8- 9. I have been watching some very interesting videos by Dr Jason Fung via a link a forum friend sent me. Very interesting. Watched one today though and he was saying how dairy produce like cheese and butter can push the insulin resistance up. And meat and fish. Yet this is what we've been eating instead of the carbohydrates. Also, he said to eat unrefined carbohydrate as this can slow down the insulin resistance. We were previously eating Burgen Soya and Linseed bread anyway, and wholemeal pasta and brown basmati rice. I cut them all out when we started the LCHF diet. He also said to eat fruit, yet other doctors (e.g. Dr Eric Berg) say to treat fruit like sweets except they are healthy. I am getting so confused with it all, it's doing my head in. My partner has had a heart bypass and a kidney transplant and I need to get this right so he stays healthy. Help please!

I can only speak for myself. I read all info and research with an open mind. Like you different drs believe different things. Just like us posters really.
Ultimately I try what I haven't before and remember what kept me lighter over the years. For me I've come to the conclusion that diabetes is a result of my hormones not been right for a very long time. Maybe birth. I work with what I am.
I have a control on high bgs. At the moment. However that can change. I am getting success on lchf regarding fluctuating bgs. Needing less insulin, which gives me less weight gain. There are some great successes in success stories forum. I hope this helps.

 

[hankjam]

6.9 today, tho never got up till 9am. Always got up about 6am till year ago now I seem to go to bed most nights /mornings at about 1pm or later, my sugars are always in the late 6's or 7's. I want them lower. Any advice how to do this? Maybe I get liver dump I don't know. I wake up st 6 but I go back to sleep. Past 12months been hard adjusting to living alone, worries ect. I'm not so active as o was either , Get so stressed, any diet advice maybe ? I don't drink, gave up long ago. Thanks good day to you all

It's not always appropriate but I reckon doing as much exercise as you can manage can really help. It does not have to be a lot and what you can do can be built on. I go for walks lunch and after dinner and actually count every other step to a pattern of 1, 2 , 3 and 4. The time flies, I don't think about anything else, I'll take in the view, lunch time is looking over the River Tay westwards, evenings is through a wood. I know I am fortunate to be able to do so and hopefully will continue. Walking is good, you don't sweat or need to get changed and yet gets the ticker going. If walking is not on, stretching exercises can help keep the muscles active. Again small amounts go a long way. I have a torn rotor cuff, the muscles that attach my arm to my shoulder socket have uncoupled and are not well aligned. I do 10 mins stretching every morning and after a couple of months I can now sleep on that shoulder without waking up from the pain it causes.
Sorry if this has rambled but I would recommend looking for an exercise you can do, just to get going and then build on it.

On diet: what you eating at the moment and when in the day?

 

[paula.nolan42]

Hope everyone has had a good day - Have a great sleep tonight - see you tomorrow

 

[Magisham]

I can only speak for myself. I read all info and research with an open mind. Like you different drs believe different things. Just like us posters really.
Ultimately I try what I haven't before and remember what kept me lighter over the years. For me I've come to the conclusion that diabetes is a result of my hormones not been right for a very long time. Maybe birth. I work with what I am.
I have a control on high bgs. At the moment. However that can change. I am getting success on lchf regarding fluctuating bgs. Needing less insulin, which gives me less weight gain. There are some great successes in success stories forum. I hope this helps.

Thank you.

 

[hankjam]

Hi @johnnybaker45 I hope you don't mind me copying this message to type 2 life thread. I wouldnt like to upset anyone when I reply to u.
Yes. It looks like it is exactly that. You like me and I guess other insulin resistant suffers keep getting the carb/sugar addition which hold our progress back. I've found with myself that my body send out messages for more sugary foods when my good sugar level isn't consistant. This is the golden chalice of insulin resistance. Steady good bgs which keep the carb/sugar cravings away.
Myself I find it in lchf with no extremely low carb level allowed per day. Steady medication if prescribed too. The meds can be reduced once long term excellent steady levels. Or reoccuring hypos on hypo sensitive meds.
I've been through it all and the common feature to my diabetes is this carb cravings and inconsistant sugar levels with increased meds.
This is changing for me. In fact I'm turning a little to relaxed about how my insulin resistance works. ( i.e I have a treat and know I can rebound back to good control and carry on.)
Life would be miserable for me if everyone non-diabetic are constantly able to eat what they like.
I hit the protein and veg to attack my sugar/carb cravings which are very few and far between now.
I hope you can find your good control too @johnnybaker45 . It is great and feels very achievable once done once. Have a go?

Nice post @ickihun

 

[hankjam]

Hi all, 5.8. Saturday morning. 5.4. Saturday after dinner.
Sunday morning. 5. last night Sunday after dinner. 5.2.
5.4. this Monday morning. Very happy with these readings saying I am still in pain with this frozen shoulder and had no sleep all week.

@amgrundy I feel your pain with the frozen shoulder... they are not good. Exercises and physio or more aggressive?
Wish you a rapid recovery.

 

[debrasue]

@maureen5752 - Ooh now that's a difficult question! I used to be a Vegetarian for many, many, many years - it's only within the past 2 - 3years I began trying and sampling other foods. For our dinner this evening I made Carbonara: Pancetta, garlic, onions, celery, mushrooms, double cream and Pasta and decided we shall have that once a week from now on. Some days are sensible eating and others I eat not much maybe just toast and or a Sandwich and of course CHOCOLATE!!!

Love, love, love milk chocolate!! But it does terrible things to my head and once I start I can't stop eating it, literally. In the past I have binged on it until I'm sick, and the binged some more. So now I have had to face the fact that I can't ever have it again, which makes me very sad.

 

[hankjam]

Past few months I've turned more to the LCHF and less carbs, bought some lovely cheese Friday in fact, I was always active but truthfully these ops have taken my confidence away I'm always dropping my tea and stuff, many people have remarked on change in me which doesn't help, may 9th I go for post op then hopefully glasses, become bit of recluse I suppose, got to get back to normal, sorry for moaning, I will try the cheese & crackers tonight thanks

@maureen5752 this is the place to moan, if you can't moan here where can you? It's what we're for.
Cheese is great. I find just a wee bit can really keep the munchies away... that and a glass of water!!!
Wish you well for the ops and sorry if my previous post banged on about exercise a bit too evangelically.

 

[Liam1955]

Sorry Folks - too many posts flying off the thread tonight, one eye on the TV and one eye on my tablet, and somebody showing me their tablet (their on e.bay) - now I can catch up!

 

[Magisham]

@Magisham did you read Diet Doctor to help you with LCHF if you are choosing to follow this diet? It's worked for me and I see it as a lifestyle change. New diets are hard, let's be honest - what can I, what can't I eat? Diet doctor helped me start LCHF, it has a wealth of recipes. Basically cut out all those carbs, and also read what is in all foods - carbs are hidden everywhere.

Give it time to take effect, noting happens overnight.

Best wishes

Thanks. We have been doing it for a couple of months now. Big improvement in bloods and weight loss over first 6 weeks or so. Actually, bloods came down within a week. Have read Michael Mosley books on the 8 week reverse diabetes diet and the 5:2 diet. Have bought several books listing carb/ calorie/ GI values and watched so many lectures on YouTube by various doctors. They have all said the same thing and I have a pretty good idea on dietary values of foods having had to do low fat/low sodium/low potassium/ low carbohydrate diets over the years. What is confusing me is that most doctors I have listened to seem to say cut out all the carbs, but this doctor is saying to have unrefined carbs. Other doctors say to eat fat and protein to stop hunger/build muscle/gain energy, but now this particular doctor is saying that meat/cheese/fish/eggs will push the bloods up. I know too much protein will do that. Other doctors say not to eat fruit because it is full of sugar this one says to eat it. I wish I could hit upon the right balance that we could stick to. As for doctors, they just don't seem to have a clue about diet. They told my partner he was diabetic 2 years ago after his kidney transplant. The only dietary advice they gave him was a small leaflet telling him to base all his meals around carbohydrate. And for his meals they actually gave him mashed potato, boiled potato and a tiny square of lasagne for one meal, with tiramisu for dessert. So I don't hold out much hope for advice there. Thanks for your interest and for taking the time to answer.

 

[Liam1955]

@debrasue - what was it: Stress? Or pre-bed Snack?

 

[maureen5752]

@maureen5752 - Ooh now that's a difficult question! I used to be a Vegetarian for many, many, many years - it's only within the past 2 - 3years I began trying and sampling other foods. For our dinner this evening I made Carbonara: Pancetta, garlic, onions, celery, mushrooms, double cream and Pasta and decided we shall have that once a week from now on. Some days are sensible eating and others I eat not much maybe just toast and or a Sandwich and of course CHOCOLATE!!!

Bought some great 85% chocolate today!! I've always been interested in cooking, my daughter calls me 'a feeder' says no one leaves this house hungry! I love Iranian food but had to recently change since diabetic cos of rice, dates,ect. I've started eating more eggs, cheese, cream but I generally just eat a healthy diet, fish, turkey, meat, veg, brown bread, whole grain, some fruite, nuts, natural yoghurt, kefir every day, it's only since eye op I've gained weight cos I only went out when had to, confidence problem incase I fell, I was vegetarian for years like my daughter was, but on this diet I got my sugars down from 13+ to 7.9 then to 5.9% in 6months so not to bad, doctor said it's fantastic, got my cholestrol down from 8 to 3.3 & tryclicerite down from 1.9 to 0.7 so I don't exactly follow LCHF diet but do eat more fat as in cheese ect, your meal tonight sounds good, I'd like to try that, meat cooked with celery & mint is very tasty an Iranian dish, not fattening at all. Sorry I'll close here been going on a bit sorry

 

[ickihun]

I'm off to bed @liam1955 , @13lizanne and others. Sweet dreams.

 

[debrasue]

Bought some great 85% chocolate today!! I've always been interested in cooking, my daughter calls me 'a feeder' says no one leaves this house hungry! I love Iranian food but had to recently change since diabetic cos of rice, dates,ect. I've started eating more eggs, cheese, cream but I generally just eat a healthy diet, fish, turkey, meat, veg, brown bread, whole grain, some fruite, nuts, natural yoghurt, kefir every day, it's only since eye op I've gained weight cos I only went out when had to, confidence problem incase I fell, I was vegetarian for years like my daughter was, but on this diet I got my sugars down from 13+ to 7.9 then to 5.9% in 6months so not to bad, doctor said it's fantastic, got my cholestrol down from 8 to 3.3 & tryclicerite down from 1.9 to 0.7 so I don't exactly follow LCHF diet but do eat more fat as in cheese ect, your meal tonight sounds good, I'd like to try that, meat cooked with celery & mint is very tasty an Iranian dish, not fattening at all. Sorry I'll close here been going on a bit sorry

Love the sound of meat cooked with celery and mint - do you have a recipe? I also love lamb cooked with lime juice (Cypriot dish) - delicious!

 

[debrasue]

@debrasue - what was it: Stress? Or pre-bed Snack?

Do you mean the chocolate? Any excuse, I'm afraid. Happy, sad, stressed, breakfast, lunch, midnight snack, celebrating, comfort eating - it just ticked all my boxes. The best way, though, was alone - it was definitely NOT for sharing! ​

 

[hankjam]

Bought some great 85% chocolate today!! I've always been interested in cooking, my daughter calls me 'a feeder' says no one leaves this house hungry! I love Iranian food but had to recently change since diabetic cos of rice, dates,ect. I've started eating more eggs, cheese, cream but I generally just eat a healthy diet, fish, turkey, meat, veg, brown bread, whole grain, some fruite, nuts, natural yoghurt, kefir every day, it's only since eye op I've gained weight cos I only went out when had to, confidence problem incase I fell, I was vegetarian for years like my daughter was, but on this diet I got my sugars down from 13+ to 7.9 then to 5.9% in 6months so not to bad, doctor said it's fantastic, got my cholestrol down from 8 to 3.3 & tryclicerite down from 1.9 to 0.7 so I don't exactly follow LCHF diet but do eat more fat as in cheese ect, your meal tonight sounds good, I'd like to try that, meat cooked with celery & mint is very tasty an Iranian dish, not fattening at all. Sorry I'll close here been going on a bit sorry

I was brought up in Iran from the age of 6 months to 14, when I left. Iranian food.... hmmmmm... they know how to cook rice, bake naan's and make mast... and then there was gaz... probably why I am a DB... but no I then came to Scotland to school and learnt about tablet... there was a baker's in Musselburgh that made the most amazing tablet... long gone, which is probably just as well.
Bloods and lipids looking good!

 

[Liam1955]

Not at all @Maureen 5752 I find it interesting what foods others eat.I still eat dates about 4 at any one time and 1 - 2 dried figs (good for bowels) I eat loads of Cheese and Greek Yoghurt and only began buying eggs about a month ago ( farmer's wife comes round door to door selling them) they are free range so we buy them, if they are not eaten by the end of the week I pickle them. I now eat smoked bacon, and dishes that contain Mince = such as Lasagne's and make what I call Mince meat loaf, and homemade burgers, and I now like Chicken Kiev's (shop bought with garlic inside) Prawns, Crab, Lobster, Scampi and tinned Tuna in oil, and butter and Hovis Wheatgerm Bread. Eat chips as a treat when we go out.

 

[Liam1955]

Do you mean the chocolate? Any excuse, I'm afraid. Happy, sad, stressed, breakfast, lunch, midnight snack, celebrating, comfort eating - it just ticked all my boxes. The best way, though, was alone - it was definitely NOT for sharing! ​

Would give you my last £1 pound - but, not chocolate, it's NOT for sharing = ever!

 

[Liam1955]

I'm off to bed @liam1955 , @13lizanne and others. Sweet dreams.

Good Night and Pleasant Dreams. - William x