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Type 2 Help Please With Various Things
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Mbaker
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Hi @wasdal this is a difficult question as it is specific to you, where you are on your regime and what you would like to achieve.
If you are doing a low calorie regime then the skimmed milk and low fat is inline with this protocol (not what I would do).
If you are doing LCHF / Keto (my preference) then the full fat (Greek) yogurt and full fat milk is the option. Using this option helped me get to a sustainable body weight; however I know to get my vanity 6 pack I have to back off of the dairy. I do not do milk (but my wife does and is still losing weight). You might want to consider lactose free milk as this is the sugar part (albeit relatively small unless you are drinking cups of milk).
If you are doing a low calorie regime then the skimmed milk and low fat is inline with this protocol (not what I would do).
If you are doing LCHF / Keto (my preference) then the full fat (Greek) yogurt and full fat milk is the option. Using this option helped me get to a sustainable body weight; however I know to get my vanity 6 pack I have to back off of the dairy. I do not do milk (but my wife does and is still losing weight). You might want to consider lactose free milk as this is the sugar part (albeit relatively small unless you are drinking cups of milk).
Bluetit1802
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As @Mbaker said, it all depends which eating plan you have decided to follow.
On a low carb or very low carb diet you need to increase your fats in order not to lose energy, and you need to look at the total carb content on the packaging to make sure you aren't going over your personal limit.
Generally speaking, low fat products such as low fat yogurts, have more carbs in them.
As far as milk goes, it depends how much you have. A dash of milk in a cup of tea will make very little difference whether skimmed or full fat, but a whole pint glass of it will make a difference.
Personally, I use double cream in coffee, skimmed milk in tea (personal preference as I hate creamy tea), and eat full fat unsweetened, unflavoured, Greek yogurts.
Thanks, I'm not following any regime yet I saw a dietician a few weeks ago & am none the wiser as all she said when she saw me was (you don't look like a diabetic)?! Only cause I'm slim & she thought my diet was OK however my sugars are not going down so was just wondering if maybe it's the skimmed milk or low fat yogurt that's not helping?? I honestly don't know how many carbs I'm allowed a day for being a diabetic 
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I would recommend having a look round the forum and seeing what it has to offer, a lot!! The low carb is very popular and this does involve replacing the carbs with fats, which can be a little odd after all the "low fat" messages we've had for the last x years.
Welcome to the forum and if you have a question do ask as there are lots of folk round here willing to give advice/suggestions.
Welcome to the forum and if you have a question do ask as there are lots of folk round here willing to give advice/suggestions.
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How many carbs are "allowed" varies for everyone, it's a trial and error thing. I started at 75 to 80 grams a day. (DiaNurse told me to start at 125. Nuh-uh). That got me off meds and into the non- diabetic range. Now I'm trying keto, at 20 grams a day or less, to lose some visceral fat and tackle other health issues. So just start somewhere and see what works for you. And if you're not a fan of counting, just leave out or reduce grain-based baked goods, rice, pasta, potatoes, cereal, corn, fruit save for berries, and sugary drinks and such... Up the healthy fat intake to combat hunger, go for proteine as well. Full fat dairy, eggs, above ground veggies, meat, fish... Dietdoctor.com and this place's low carb program are great to start with.
Bluetit1802
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Have a good browse round this site https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/60-seconds there are plenty of ideas there. There is no need to lose weight if you are already slim on a low carb diet - just up the fats and protein to compensate for the lost calories/energy.
Carbs cause blood sugars to rise - they all convert to glucose once eaten. The good news is that fats don't, and proteins only by very little, if at all.
Carbs cause blood sugars to rise - they all convert to glucose once eaten. The good news is that fats don't, and proteins only by very little, if at all.
Thanks very much appreciate your advise
Thank you for your help much appreciated
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I have been advised by my dietician to avoid fat free yoghurt and milk. For yoghurt she advised full fat and for milk - skimmed milk.
Thanks I've been eating Skyr yogurt lately so hope that's OK & been using skimmed milk for years but looks like I'll need to change to full fat now.
I've been eating Skyr yogurt for a while now and hope it's OK as not fat free
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For many diabetics the thing to keep track of day to day is the carbs - that is all the starch and sugar, not the fibre - but in the UK we see the net carbs on the back of the packet - the traffic light thing on the front is no help at all as it shows only sugar, not the starches as well.
Fat has no impact on insulin, but we do need to eat natural amounts of fat in order to balance our diets.
I needed to go back to the amount of carbs which kept my weight steady before diagnosis and interference from doctors - 50 gm a day, and that sorted out the diabetes, but now I am down to 40gm to try to remove some fat.
When I first started low carbing I made a list of foods which were under 11 percent carbs so I had a handy reference for what to buy.
Fat has no impact on insulin, but we do need to eat natural amounts of fat in order to balance our diets.
I needed to go back to the amount of carbs which kept my weight steady before diagnosis and interference from doctors - 50 gm a day, and that sorted out the diabetes, but now I am down to 40gm to try to remove some fat.
When I first started low carbing I made a list of foods which were under 11 percent carbs so I had a handy reference for what to buy.
Bluetit1802
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You go by the Total Carbohydrate. The "of which sugars" can be ignored for the time being. The total fats "of which saturates" are nothing to do with carbs at all.
OK so just look at the carbohydrates then, just looking at our bread & it says 21.8g per slice so obviously high as normally I'll have 2 slices as a sandwich & that's not counting the rest of the day, okey dokey will have to see about other options thanks
Brilliant thanks very much my head is a bit less confused now. I was diagnosed in 2010 & managed to keep my sugars at bay just by eating 1600 calories a day as I needed to loose some weight but then in 2016 I was told that I had Cancer so my life turned inside out & my diet went out the window
I now want to get back on track as my sugars are too high but finding it a struggle for some reason but having read some of the messages on here I think I know were I'm going wrong. Thanks very much for your kind advice
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Brilliant thanks very much my head is a bit less confused now. I was diagnosed in 2010 & managed to keep my sugars at bay just by eating 1600 calories a day as I needed to loose some weight but then in 2016 I was told that I had Cancer so my life turned inside out & my diet went out the windowI now want to get back on track as my sugars are too high but finding it a struggle for some reason but having read some of the messages on here I think I know were I'm going wrong. Thanks very much for your kind advice
The cancer diagnosis must have been a terrible shock, and no wonder your diet went out of the window. I hope you are on the road to recovery and remission from the cancer. (I've been through it myself, so I know how you felt)
For the time being, you can forget calories. Forget fats and saturated fats, concentrate on carbs. Go through your cupboards, fridge and freezer and look at all the nutrition labels. Look for the total carb amounts, which are normally shown in a percentage ( so many grams per 100g is a percentage) and try not to eat foods that are higher than 10% carbs, preferably a lot less. You will find that the worst ones are those that contain flour or starch - bread, rice, potatoes, pasta, breakfast cereals etc. plus other things such as gravy, sauces, beans, fruit.
You need a meter to guide you, alongside a food diary.
If you are a bread lover, you can find low carb breads in supermarkets. Burgen (Sainsburys), Hi-Lo (Sainsburys), Livelife (Waitrose). There are others, but it takes time to find them and read the labels.
I'm glad you're OK well I couldn't finish the chemo as nearly killed me so just on hormone tablets for now & hope for the best. Thank you very much for your advice I'm a lot clearer on things now & can see were I've been going wrong, cheers
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Although a type 1 I’ve also been through it. I have an article of my journey in Chat Magazine issue 30 in shops on 19 July.
The advice you’ve had here ref carbs n fats are great.
There is a carbs n cals book that’s available if you want to see portion sizes actually on plates as to how they work out for “guesstimating” carbs.
Protein is essential for well being and healing from cancer so things like eggs, almonds, brocolli, chicken, beef, tuna, milk and Greek yogurt are very good for cancer & diabetes...
