My Son Has Pre Diabetes.... What Now ?

ExtremelyW0rried

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It will almost certainly not be t2.

It will be t1 if it is diabetes but may have been picked up early.
My a1c at diagnosis was 5.9% but I was having the occasional high blood sugar above 11 and my dad is t1. On that basis I was given a t1 diagnosis but it took six months for me to need insulin and it was fairly slow progression until the last month or two.
 

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I agree with others who say you should concentrate on the eczema. If your son actually has diabetes (almost certainly T1) then his symptoms will worsen to the point where you can easily get a diagnosis (and you'll still be getting warning early enough to avoid any diabetic damage.)
I can only imagine how hard it is for you while waiting for a diagnosis, and if I was in your position I'd be desperate for one to cover my son's symptoms, but it doesn't help to rush into a treatment plan and strategy for something he hasn't actually been diagnosed with. Most of the folk on here are T2 adults and carbohydrate intolerant: they advise low carb because it appears to be the best treatment for their condition. It's incredibly unlikely that your child will be T2, and T1 diabetics lack insulin rather than being carbohydrate intolerant, so the treatment is different.
Have you been referred to an endocrinologist for the puberty issue? (The good news is, they deal with diabetic issues as well, so they'll have a much better understanding of your son's possibly slightly elevated blood sugar results).

Good luck, lots of virtual hugs.
 
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ringi

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One of the reasons I said rejuse carbs and avoid suger is that it often gives good results with eczema.
 

Thewomanintrouble

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It will almost certainly not be t2.

It will be t1 if it is diabetes but may have been picked up early.
My a1c at diagnosis was 5.9% but I was having the occasional high blood sugar above 11 and my dad is t1. On that basis I was given a t1 diagnosis but it took six months for me to need insulin and it was fairly slow progression until the last month or two.

Hello !

I've spoken to my doctor and he said they will diagnose t2 or pre-diabetic if their bloods are indicated this. He also mentioned that ac1 isn't used to diagnose Diabetes. However, the specialist will want to know how his blood sugar levelse= will be.
 

ringi

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is this in the UK? a fasting blood test and then a follow up HbA1c is definitely used here to make a diagnosis.

Not with children, muct most likely to use two fasting BG, as diabetes often develops too fast in childhood for the A1c to give a useful result.
 

Thewomanintrouble

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is this in the UK? a fasting blood test and then a follow up HbA1c is definitely used here to make a diagnosis.

Hello !

Yes we are in the UK. The ac1 is very useful but what another poster has pointed out, they will mainly look at fasting plasma glucose and our blood sugar results to make a diagnosis.
 

Thewomanintrouble

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Does this sound about right ? I'm worried what my son is eating is influencing the results.

In the morning (7.30-ish am) my son had bacon and egg.

In school, for his snack (11am-12) he had rice cakes and raisins.

1pm- For his pack lunch, he had a tuna sandwich, Hula hoops (basically the red walker's crisps) Orange, Carrots, pancake, Oat Bar, Jelly and Water.

(I'm not sure if he had any snacks during the school day after this)

I picked him up from school at 3.30 and gave him a Watermelon and he had his water-bottle. Then we went to the park for a short while.

He had his dinner at 7.30, which he had Thai red chicken curry with brown rice and he had a squash to drink.

I did his pre results, before dinner, and they were 6.0, after two hours, they were 6.1.

How can they be this low ? Is it because of what he ate ? He was less stressed when taking his bloods, I'm not sure if that is a factor.
 

Thewomanintrouble

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Urgh, just had a look into my son's packlunch, he only ate his tuna sandwich, hula-hoops and Orange, minus the pancake, carrots and Jelly.

I just remembered he ate his Oatbar after school too. So at 3.30- 4.30-ish, he had his watermelon, Oatbar and the bottle of water.

Should I just discontinue those results I mentioned above, as they are basically faulty because he hardly ate his packlunch.
 

archersuz

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Should I just discontinue those results I mentioned above, as they are basically faulty because he hardly ate his packlunch.
I think you need to follow the advice given by @DCUKMod and stop driving yourself insane with worry. Go back to your GP and get this sorted. We CANNOT give you medical advice and your child needs proper testing and diagnosis.
 

Thewomanintrouble

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I think you need to follow the advice given by @DCUKMod and stop driving yourself insane with worry. Go back to your GP and get this sorted. We CANNOT give you medical advice and your child needs proper testing and diagnosis.

I have been ordered to keep taking my son's blood glucose results till a certain date. This is a diabetic forum isn't it ? I'm asking if I should discontinue with that result because of the reason I mentioned above.
 

ExtremelyW0rried

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I have been ordered to keep taking my son's blood glucose results till a certain date. This is a diabetic forum isn't it ? I'm asking if I should discontinue with that result because of the reason I mentioned above.


No I would record it if you’ve been asked to and just make a note of what he ate.

I don’t know why the gp is talking about t2 diabetes, except to say that usually gps see more t2 and also they used to only seeing t1s when they are very ill.
As I said before if it is diabetes you are seeing it very early and the a1c is only slightly raised and is not diagnostic. A gp won’t be familiar with this situation and will tell you t1 develops quickly etc etc. But it does not. It can take a couple of years. It’s just that one it is symptomatic then yes, then it develops quickly. But before blood sugars are 10, they are 9, before they are 9 they are 8, etc. It’s not always a fast process.
 

lucylocket61

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I have been ordered to keep taking my son's blood glucose results till a certain date. This is a diabetic forum isn't it ? I'm asking if I should discontinue with that result because of the reason I mentioned above.
how often has your GP asked you to test your sons blood glucose levels and when? sorry, I cant find your post telling us about this : (
 

lucylocket61

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How can they be this low ? Is it because of what he ate ? He was less stressed when taking his bloods, I'm not sure if that is a factor.
sorry, me again - they were that low because his body is processing them properly. Our figures should be back to normal after two hours if we do not have diabetes, as a rule, a very general rule.
 

Thewomanintrouble

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No I would record it if you’ve been asked to and just make a note of what he ate.

I don’t know why the gp is talking about t2 diabetes, except to say that usually gps see more t2 and also they used to only seeing t1s when they are very ill.
As I said before if it is diabetes you are seeing it very early and the a1c is only slightly raised and is not diagnostic. A gp won’t be familiar with this situation and will tell you t1 develops quickly etc etc. But it does not. It can take a couple of years. It’s just that one it is symptomatic then yes, then it develops quickly. But before blood sugars are 10, they are 9, before they are 9 they are 8, etc. It’s not always a fast process.

Thank you ! Our Diabetic nurse basically said the same thing as the GP, as she's cared for children who have a similar profile to my son and most have been diagnosed with pre-diabetes by the Endo.. she also mentioned there could be something else, not related to Diabetes, going on but yes she did say that once symptomatic, it develops very quickly. But we are seeing the Endocrinologist and they would do all the tests which would put our mind at ease. I just have to keep taking the bloods !

Thanks again.
 

Thewomanintrouble

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how often has your GP asked you to test your sons blood glucose levels and when? sorry, I cant find your post telling us about this : (

It was actually the Endocrinologist who informed the GP that we have to keep taking the blood glucose, for 4 times a week, Fasting, pre-meals and after two hour meals, till we see him/her next week.
 

Thewomanintrouble

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sorry, me again - they were that low because his body is processing them properly. Our figures should be back to normal after two hours if we do not have diabetes, as a rule, a very general rule.

But does it take into account what we ate before ? As my son didn't eat all of his pack lunch in the afternoon, I just want to give the Endo a clear picture.