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Feeling Very Low

Shelly47

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hello.
I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes about 18 months ago. To be honest I haven't taken it very seriously and have recently been put on metformin. I also have medication for high blood pressure and high cholesterol. Yesterday I had a phone call appointment with my GP and I found out I have elevated liver function tests so will need further tests including a liver scan. He asked me was I overweight. I am easily 4 to 5 stones overweight. I have struggled with my weight all of my life. I know what I should and shouldn't eat but just cannot stick to a healthy diet. I feel very low. And sad. And find it hard to see a happy future where I cannot eat the things I want.
 
Hi @Shelly47 & welcome to the forum. I'm really sorry to hear you're feeling down but I must say I'm not surprised - we all feel a bit shell shocked & sad at first. Good news is there is lots of support here & dietary changes can be a lot easier & far more pleasant than you might imagine. I'll tag in @daisy1 who'll be along soon with some basic information to get you started.

As to your blood test results - if you look around the forum you'll see that many members have had similar results to begin with but have managed to make significant improvements.

Hope you feel better soon & that you'll stick around for a bit :)
 
find it hard to see a happy future where I cannot eat the things I want.
Hi @Shelly47 and welcome to the forum. I've been hanging around here for over five years and stories like yours come up all the time ...... and then, a few months later, the same people report their successes and their greatly improved health.

I wonder what you have been told or understand to be the things you now, supposedly, cannot eat? Almost all our success stories are based on a low (or reduced) carb diet, with increased good, natural fats to stop you being hungry. This "lifestyle" (it's not a diet, it's for life) is often referred to as LCHF or low carb high fat. One of the best resources for finding out about this is https://www.dietdoctor.com/ , though there is loads of info on this site and forum too.

Have a look round and then ask any questions you need to.
Sally
 
Hi @Shelly47 welcome to the group.:) Sorry to hear that you are so down but I'm sure we can help you.;) What do you call your normal eating? What sort of foods? A lot of us have done very well with both weight loss, sorting Blood Glucose (Bg) and even coming of medication by following Low Carb High Fat (LCHF) way of eating. You can still have very good meals, like eggs, bacon, mushrooms etc for breakfast. The main thing is cutting your carb intake. I would also advise getting a Bg meter so that you can test your Bg and see what foods spike you. There are a few on the market but I have a couple of the CodeFree ones off e-bay. They are a fair price and the test strips are reasonable. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blood-Glucose-Sugar-Monitor-Meter-mmol-L-Diabetics. You are in the right place for help, advice and support, so you are not alone we are here to help where we can. We are not doctors but have been were you are:happy:
 
Hello.
I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes about 18 months ago. To be honest I haven't taken it very seriously and have recently been put on metformin. I also have medication for high blood pressure and high cholesterol. Yesterday I had a phone call appointment with my GP and I found out I have elevated liver function tests so will need further tests including a liver scan. He asked me was I overweight. I am easily 4 to 5 stones overweight. I have struggled with my weight all of my life. I know what I should and shouldn't eat but just cannot stick to a healthy diet. I feel very low. And sad. And find it hard to see a happy future where I cannot eat the things I want.
Hopefully you have come to the right place..
What kind of things do you enjoy eating? Maybe we can make a few dietary changes that will help not only with your Type 2 but also the hypertension and cholesterol (although that may not be the problem your doctor thinks it is).
Welcome..
 
Hello and welcome to the forum. Like you, I had dodgy liver function test results but after just four months of healthier eating my markers were back in the normal range. Don't despair, there is hope.
 
Thank you for all the replies. I'm feeling better now I have a sweet tooth and the things I know I shouldn't eat fall into this category. Ice cream, cake, sweets. I need to change my mindset and realise that these foods are not treats, to me they are just a slow acting poison
 
Hello.
I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes about 18 months ago. To be honest I haven't taken it very seriously and have recently been put on metformin. I also have medication for high blood pressure and high cholesterol. Yesterday I had a phone call appointment with my GP and I found out I have elevated liver function tests so will need further tests including a liver scan. He asked me was I overweight. I am easily 4 to 5 stones overweight. I have struggled with my weight all of my life. I know what I should and shouldn't eat but just cannot stick to a healthy diet. I feel very low. And sad. And find it hard to see a happy future where I cannot eat the things I want.
Hi Shelly47,

It is good to take the diabetes seriously. The potential for complications is huge.
However, everybody feels in the beginning like you and it takes time for it to sink in.
When you feel ready, have a think and write down the things that are important to you, the things that you want to happen and the things you want to achieve. It is also a good idea to give them priority values.
Many people have advised you to change your diet. It has two benefits. One is, it will help reduce your BS (blood sugar) and two, it will help with weight reduction. But they have to be accompanied by exercise.
Another way is to add medication. There are people who spend their lives fighting to avoid medication. Some successfully, some not. (didn't work for me). There is nothing scary about it, but pill popping becomes a bit tedious after a while.
And if all else fails, there is insulin, which is not as scary as it sounds. I moved on insulin and while the first month or two were hectic and difficult, once I gained the knowledge and achieved some organisation, everything went to normal.

Most people, especially in this forum are proponents of the reduction of carbohydrates (carbs). Some have successfully reduced them to minimum and have achieved normalisation of BS as well as weight loss. However, this is on the expense of eating a healthy balanced diet, recommended by nutritionists. It also has to become your life long diet as you will have to maintain the reversal of the diabetes. Otherwise, going back to your usual eating habits will undo the good work.

Having read your post, I'm under the impression that you love to eat and it is an important component of the quality of your life. I'm not advocating staying as you are, but there is an option Thatto one mentioned and that will allow you to eat if not all the time, the things you like. It is to take insulin. Basically, you replace the ineffective insulin with injected insulin and try to mimic the action of the natural body insulin. You can learn to match the insulin to the amount of carbs you eat. In this forum most people are intent on the low carb diets and do not mention any other alternatives.
But it is good to know your options. After all everyone is different with different goals and priorities. You need to find yours and then decide which approach fits best with you.
You will need to have a frank discussion with your doctor. You van book a double appointment to ensure there is enough time for discussion.

Each approach has its plus and minuses. Again, look at them and decide what fits you best. In any case some sacrifices will have to be made. But hey, what is ever simple on this world,

Wishing you best of luck, chin up and focus on not letting the diabetes ruling your life. Instead you rule it.
 
this is on the expense of eating a healthy balanced diet
You here make the assumption that cakes, ice cream and sugar is part of a healthy balanced diet. Most people here don't eat these things. Instead they eat a healthy low carbohydrate diet which is composed of meat, fish, dairy, eggs, green vegetables, some berries (in moderation) with the super extras of butter, cream and cheese.
Can you please show me what is "unhealthy" in that list of food types.
 
Thank you for all the replies. I'm feeling better now I have a sweet tooth and the things I know I shouldn't eat fall into this category. Ice cream, cake, sweets. I need to change my mindset and realise that these foods are not treats, to me they are just a slow acting poison
That was the way I looked at things that I used to think were "treats" - "slow acting poison"... I think if you can maintain that then you'll get some great results whilst enjoying loads of really good food.
 
I am doing low carb and my blood sugar normalised within two weeks. I still have minor blips when I’m stressed but on the whole it is a good reading. If you can get through the first week of cravings then you will find that they’ve gone. I generally no longer crave anything sweet and have a sugar free mint if I maybe feel like it. Within two weeks you will feel so good. No matter what eating plan you decide on, keep busy and drink plenty of water. I found checking my levels was highly motivational, but I’m lucky as my GP is so shocked at my readings she is happy to prescribe strips as she can see I’m not wasting them. Good luck and you CAN do it xx
PS. I also found it better not to try and find substitutes for carby foods but just eat a healthy plant and meat based diet. That helped me with any carb cravings I had. Sounds strange but smelling things was enough to satisfy cravings such as bread!
 
Hello.
I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes about 18 months ago. To be honest I haven't taken it very seriously and have recently been put on metformin. I also have medication for high blood pressure and high cholesterol. Yesterday I had a phone call appointment with my GP and I found out I have elevated liver function tests so will need further tests including a liver scan. He asked me was I overweight. I am easily 4 to 5 stones overweight. I have struggled with my weight all of my life. I know what I should and shouldn't eat but just cannot stick to a healthy diet. I feel very low. And sad. And find it hard to see a happy future where I cannot eat the things I want.

When I was first diagnosed I woke up in the mornings to find I'd been crying in my sleep. I was pretty downhearted, and felt like I had one foot in the grave. So, here I am, little over 2 years later, with 52 pounds less of me than there were to begin with, more active, healthier, happier, and like last week, actually able to fight off a bladderinfection without the aid of antibiotics. My HbA1c is 34 at the moment, and dropping. I started out on a low-carb, high fat diet, and upped the ante about 5 months ago to Keto with IF. And I'm not feeling like I'm missing out on anything, really... Thing is, we're used to sugar. I always dumped 5 spoonfulls in my coffee or tea, multiple times a day. Once you kick that habit (and it is a habit, honestly; sugars make the same part of the brain light up as hard drugs do), you don't really miss it... The cravings just go, so it won't always be something you're hungering after. And whenever I do have a single bite of something sweet, I find it is sweeter than I care for. Usually much to my surprise; in my mind I still have a sweet tooth, even if it's long gone. So it can be done, honest! Check dietdoctor.com for snacks like mug cake and the like, and hey, chocolate's still on the menu if you get used to the extra strong variety. Here in the Netherlands we have a brand (Cereal) that sells 'em sweetened with Stevia, but Labooka's Peruvian chocolate is really nice too. Or Lindt. Key being not to eat the whole bar, but with that much cocoa content, one or two squares are quite enough. I keep mine in the fridge, and they can last me a month, sometimes longer. In any case, on Dietdoctor you can find a whole lot of things that can stave off hunger AND taste great at the same time. I rather enjoy my food, which is key to sticking with a lifelong diet. If I didn't like my food, I wouldn't last a week. It was a whole lot of trial and error, but these days, eggs with bacon, mushrooms and cheese keep me full for hours. Salad with tuna, salmon of goat's cheese with mayo, wine vinigar, capers, olives or whatever, hit the spot. Rather enjoy celery sticks with a bit of hummus for a snack, or chocolate, olives, cheese, nuts... In the evening I have meat or fish with cauliflower rice, bacon and cheese. I skip breakfast more often than not, which falls under Intermittent Fasting, nowadays. I don't go hungry at all. And when I'm out and about and the only (affordable) option is a MacD's, I just order a big burger without the bun, and thus still stick with my diet. But only if there's nowhere around where I can get eggs or salads without breaking the bank. My diet's made a complete 180, and it worked, for me. And as Sani stated, there are more options. For me personally, the meds had too many side effects. And I didn't want to get into insulin unless it was a last ditch thing, and for some people it really is their only true option because their pancreas is just too knackered to do anything. (Insulin can cause weight gain. And when you're insulin-resistant, putting even more in seems, to ME at least, counter-productive. But again, that's me.). Thing is... You have options. You can go the diet route, have meds, have insulin, or a combination of two or all of the above. You can choose! Read up on all options as much as you can, then decide for yourself what is do-able. And by do-able, I mean, what makes you feel happiest in the long run. If you really, really, really cannot leave the sweet stuff behind without being absolutely miserable, then yeah... Insulin might be right for you after all. Find out what works for you. You've got options!
Good luck,
Jo
 
I was diagnosed type 2 a few months back. I did strict LCHF for four weeks too kick out the cravings. Now I keep nice bread frozen for the odd slice of toast and a couple of tubs of oppo ice cream for the times I really want a treat (which isn't often these days). I also found it helpful to remember that the cake would only be in my mouth for a very short time compared to the long term impact on my body. I too have struggled with my weight for years, but I can honestly say that I've never felt better or more empowered. You can do this!
 
It is to take insulin. Basically, you replace the ineffective insulin with injected insulin and try to mimic the action of the natural body insulin. .

Not quite how it works (unless I'm wrong in which case someone tell me) - and this is a very big generalisation so doesn't apply to all - but the insulin produced by T2's is not ineffective/defective, its just that many T2's are insulin resistant meaning that they need more to do the same job as someone without T2, so your own insulin is not being replaced when taking insulin, its just being added to.

Personally as a type 1 I've love to be able to not have to inject insulin many times every single day of my life - but I don't have a choice as I produce no insulin of my own (and they wont let me have a pump).
Some T2's do end up on insulin despite their best efforts but I'd say if you can do, you're best to try and avoid it :)
 
You here make the assumption that cakes, ice cream and sugar is part of a healthy balanced diet. Most people here don't eat these things. Instead they eat a healthy low carbohydrate diet which is composed of meat, fish, dairy, eggs, green vegetables, some berries (in moderation) with the super extras of butter, cream and cheese.
Can you please show me what is "unhealthy" in that list of food types.
No! It is YOU that is making assumptions. I don't know where did you get the cakes, ice-cream and sugar. It are you just falling into the habit of picking up on me?!
Besides your "healthy low carb" diet as described doesn't seem to contain carbs or has extremely low carb content from the berries "in moderation".

Either way, you strike me as someone, who fails to read the details, who is militant and argumentative in your views and who disregards the right of people to have a choice. When I try to balance by adding the information you omit you react as if to have a different view is heresy.

I'll say it again. PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT OD A DIFFERENT VIEW AND FULL INFORMATION TO MAKE INFORMED CHOICES! You and others like you deprive them of it.

You may enjoy eating what you eat, but others may see it as poor quality of life. I certainly do. Mind, I am not an obese diabetic, so maybe things are different.
The first post of this thread indicated that the person likes to eat and that it is important to them. All of the responders disregarded this fact. And please, spare me the comments about loosing weight etc. It is not up to you or me to decide. Again. That person will be making a decision. Provided they know the various options!!!

And lastly, I would be very grateful if you stop commenting on my posts. I do not comment on yours since out first disagreement.
 
Am I right in believing that it's insulin that causes weight gain? Please correct me if I'm wrong. If weight gain is down to insulin, then surely, if one needs to lose weight, extra insulin (allowing one to eat sweet foods more freely) will cause significant extra weight? That would be bad news for most type 2s . OK for those that are skinny and can stand extra weight (I wish ... )
 
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