What have you eaten today? (Low carb forum)

[SlimLizzy]

Been too busy to record food last few days. Got family visiting and the never ending round of cooking/clearing up has left little time for any socialising, never mind record keeping. Parents and baby left two days ago, leaving us the two girls. However one has a gluten intolerance, so home cooking is still the best option. Today she developed red, itchy, puffy eyes. Parents now reminded of previous occasions with dust, hayfever and cat allergy - any one of which could be the culprit. Out for tbe day to a retro agri festival( it has finally stopped raining) girls seemed to enjoy it, loved the steam engines and old cars, army vehicles and watched fascinated the demonstrations of previous farming methods. It was only later when the younger developed angry red blotches that we thought of the amount of wheat dust in the air.

 

[DCUKMod]

I watched the Magic Pill docu last night. Very interesting, especially the effect the diet had on the little autistic girl.
A friend’s autistic son had only a few things that he would eat, the main one being Weetabix, for all meals if he could. One time she was unwell, ran out of Weetabix and wasn’t able to buy any for some time. First he freaked out, finally accepting other food after refusing for several days, but then he calmed down. He stopped flapping hands, was more concentrated. Some months later she tried a test to see what might happen if he ate them again- he started being anxious and flapping his hands again. Fascinating.
Our No 1 has Aspergers, and I realised in Australia that food colours affected her. This was in the days of sunset yellow, some particularly evil blues etc. It was in everything! I loved the way the ‘experts’ would say ‘it hasn’t been proven that food colours have any effect on children.’ Ha! I used to think they should come and live with us for a few days and find out. Of course when I cut down on the artificial colours, I was also cutting out lots of sugar as there were hardly any alternatives as there are now. But the colours were a definite- sunset yellow was even in the batter on fish and chips to - make it look more eggy.
My food
Apart from usual nuts, cheese and yoghurt yesterday, I made butter chicken in the IP. Very good.
And I’ve just made chocolate yoghurt ice cream- mmm very good. Feeling quite spoilt.

Viv - Did you do a batch of yoghurt in your IP the other day? I did a batch over Saturday night, and admittedly strained it, but it's almost like cream cheese. I will have to re-add some whey to achieve the Greek yoghurt consistency I like.

I'm hoping that should last me a week or so. MrB is walloping his way through the clotted cream, but that's easy to address in a few days.

 

[Annb]

I watched the Magic Pill docu last night. Very interesting, especially the effect the diet had on the little autistic girl.

My No 1 son also has Aspergers and , although we knew nothing about the subject when he was young, I knew there was food that he wouldn't eat without being affected by something. I stopped giving him the foods he refused and, at that time was able to replace them with other things. I did experiment at one stage by reintroducing the problem food without letting on. The effect was almost immediate and I could almost see him shrinking into himself and removing himself from contact with anyone else. It didn't occur to me that he was suffering from real food allergies until I was diagnosed with having allergies. Doctors here didn't (and I believe still don't) test for allergies but the effect was clear. In his twenties he designed his own diet after being diagnosed with Crohn's disease and has remained relatively "normal" for the last 30 years. He has problems dealing with people but manages what he knows is a difficulty for him. He was actually only diagnosed with Asperger's when he was 48! He controls his own food and has a very limited diet, but it seems to suit him. Not that he is really healthy - his immune system is too active for that leading to many health issues. I'm sure that somewhere along the line there is a connection between autoimmune problems and Asperger's and autism.

 

[PenguinMum]

Oh PenguinMum, I would be sooo happy to have an FBG of 7.3 most mornings. I realise that for you it is not what is wanted and I sympathise - it's just wishful thinking on my part. Having said that - after a larger than usual dose of insulin last night (about 0015 this morning) it was down to 7.0 this morning - very unusual. Can I ask - what happens after your FBG measurement and before breakfast? Mine shoots up to around the 9 or 10 mark and takes the rest of the day to come down to something like normal (for me normal is something over 7) again.

Sorry Ann..it is of course horses for courses! If I dont eat breakfast which I didnt a few days ago on two occasions my BG just keeps on rising. The only thing I want with my breakfast tea is a slice of HiLo toast with butter (5g carbs) so these last two mornings thats what I had and it goes up very little 2 hrs later. Not much difference between eating it or not but a big difference to my sense of wellbeing and mood.

 

[Viv19]

Viv - Did you do a batch of yoghurt in your IP the other day? I did a batch over Saturday night, and admittedly strained it, but it's almost like cream cheese. I will have to re-add some whey to achieve the Greek yoghurt consistency I like.

I'm hoping that should last me a week or so. MrB is walloping his way through the clotted cream, but that's easy to address in a few days.

Mine was okaaay - not wonderful. I like it really thick but that hasn’t been happening lately. I’m going to buy some bio milk, see how that works. Problem is it’s hardly available in lactose free.
I made some choccy ice cream with it though. ))

 

[Annb]

Sorry Ann..it is of course horses for courses! If I dont eat breakfast which I didnt a few days ago on two occasions my BG just keeps on rising. The only thing I want with my breakfast tea is a slice of HiLo toast with butter (5g carbs) so these last two mornings thats what I had and it goes up very little 2 hrs later. Not much difference between eating it or not but a big difference to my sense of wellbeing and mood.

I'm trying to leave long gaps between meals ie 8 pm to mi day at the earliest and then another 7 or 8 hours later for my second meal. Snacks are not a good idea for me either so it's those meals and tea. The meals are not big either. The idea is 1 - to bring my BG down and 2 - to lose some weight. Neither is working so far. Of course, if the insulin I take before breakfast doesn't control my BG then it remains out of control for the rest of the day, requiring a larger dose of insulin before the evening meal just to keep it within reasonable boundaries, but if I miss that meal and therefore miss the insulin dose it does start to drop usually and has, occasionally dropped to hypo levels. By that time I'm feeling pretty sick and sorry for myself (this only happens if I am out in the afternoon/evening). We are all different and what affects one will not affect another. I just hope you can get your BG back to your normal level using the regime you have worked out for yourself.

 

[DCUKMod]

Mine was okaaay - not wonderful. I like it really thick but that hasn’t been happening lately. I’m going to buy some bio milk, see how that works. Problem is it’s hardly available in lactose free.
I made some choccy ice cream with it though. ))

Do you strain your yoghurt or add milk powder at the outset?

Sometimes, I'll add a couple of spoonfuls of coconut milk powder at the beginning, which allegedly thickens it a bit, but also just gives it a very mild coconut flavour. Clearly "ordinary" milkpowder wouldn't impact the taste.

How did you do the icecream?

 

[Viv19]

My No 1 son also has Aspergers and , although we knew nothing about the subject when he was young, I knew there was food that he wouldn't eat without being affected by something. I stopped giving him the foods he refused and, at that time was able to replace them with other things. I did experiment at one stage by reintroducing the problem food without letting on. The effect was almost immediate and I could almost see him shrinking into himself and removing himself from contact with anyone else. It didn't occur to me that he was suffering from real food allergies until I was diagnosed with having allergies. Doctors here didn't (and I believe still don't) test for allergies but the effect was clear. In his twenties he designed his own diet after being diagnosed with Crohn's disease and has remained relatively "normal" for the last 30 years. He has problems dealing with people but manages what he knows is a difficulty for him. He was actually only diagnosed with Asperger's when he was 48! He controls his own food and has a very limited diet, but it seems to suit him. Not that he is really healthy - his immune system is too active for that leading to many health issues. I'm sure that somewhere along the line there is a connection between autoimmune problems and Asperger's and autism.

You could well be right. Our daughter was finally diagnosed when she was about 30. Up to then the ‘experts’ had told us that she was ‘brain damaged’ and would never be able to learn much. Stupid lot. She’s bi-lingual, learning German ‘by the way’ when she was about 18, has almost a photographic memory (she reads, speaks and writes both languages better than a lot of people). I can ask her what our phone number was 20/30 years ago and she’ll tell me. And what was the name of the neighbours in ....? She knows.
She has skin problems- but I’ll never be able to do anything with her diet. Either she likes it or she doesn’t. She has very strong ideas about when she wants to eat too.
My mother and I telephoned when she was in her early 20s - Mum said ‘I know what she has!’ And I said ‘yes I’ve just read something!’
Hard work though.

 

[Viv19]

I'm trying to leave long gaps between meals ie 8 pm to mi day at the earliest and then another 7 or 8 hours later for my second meal. Snacks are not a good idea for me either so it's those meals and tea. The meals are not big either. The idea is 1 - to bring my BG down and 2 - to lose some weight. Neither is working so far. Of course, if the insulin I take before breakfast doesn't control my BG then it remains out of control for the rest of the day, requiring a larger dose of insulin before the evening meal just to keep it within reasonable boundaries, but if I miss that meal and therefore miss the insulin dose it does start to drop usually and has, occasionally dropped to hypo levels. By that time I'm feeling pretty sick and sorry for myself (this only happens if I am out in the afternoon/evening). We are all different and what affects one will not affect another. I just hope you can get your BG back to your normal level using the regime you have worked out for yourself.

Have you seen that docu? The magic pill? Very helpful. Though I shake at the thought of becoming such an out and out carnivore!!

 

[Viv19]

Do you strain your yoghurt or add milk powder at the outset?

Sometimes, I'll add a couple of spoonfuls of coconut milk powder at the beginning, which allegedly thickens it a bit, but also just gives it a very mild coconut flavour. Clearly "ordinary" milkpowder wouldn't impact the taste.

How did you do the icecream?

It’s difficult to find milk powder here. Normally I haven’t had problems, but my brother says that antibiotics given to barn cattle can go through to the milk- I think that’s what’s happened with my Aldi lactose free milk. That would kill some of the lovely starter and leave a thin yoghurt. Cheap milk = barn kept cows.
Usually I just make it with the starter- a mild bio yoghurt - leave it for 12 hrs, chill when it’s cool and then strain. Up to now I’ve always had good results.
The ice cream! I mixed about 350 ml yoghurt with a round tablespoon cocoa powder and 2 tablespoons Swerve (not a bad taste). I did put in a small measure of thickener because my yoghurt was not thick enough - it took me a while to find out the German name Joannisbrotkernmehl. Something bean flour in English. Real vanilla makes me ill, otherwise I would have added some of that.
I have an ice cream maker (Andrew James - not expensive), the inner pot lives in the chest freezer. That did the job well.

 

[DCUKMod]

It’s difficult to find milk powder here. Normally I haven’t had problems, but my brother says that antibiotics given to barn cattle can go through to the milk- I think that’s what’s happened with my Aldi lactose free milk. That would kill some of the lovely starter and leave a thin yoghurt. Cheap milk = barn kept cows.
Usually I just make it with the starter- a mild bio yoghurt - leave it for 12 hrs, chill when it’s cool and then strain. Up to now I’ve always had good results.
The ice cream! I mixed about 350 ml yoghurt with a round tablespoon cocoa powder and 2 tablespoons Swerve (not a bad taste). I did put in a small measure of thickener because my yoghurt was not thick enough - it took me a while to find out the German name Joannisbrotkernmehl. Something bean flour in English. Real vanilla makes me ill, otherwise I would have added some of that.
I have an ice cream maker (Andrew James - not expensive), the inner pot lives in the chest freezer. That did the job well.

I just start my yog with some whey from the last batch. From memory, pasturised milk is much less common in Germany?

From your earlier post, I thought you had made the icecream in the IP. I couldn't quite get how that would work!

 

[Brunneria]

Evenin’ All,

Ugg choc chia muffin and cream for breakfast. Yum. Very decadent.
No L
D: total surprise! Mr B came home with 2 M&S meatzzas. So we had one each. Quite a weird experience! Maybe the sort of thing to keep in freezer for emergencies.

No dog walk today, for several reasons. They may explode.

 

[PenguinMum]

I'm trying to leave long gaps between meals ie 8 pm to mi day at the earliest and then another 7 or 8 hours later for my second meal. Snacks are not a good idea for me either so it's those meals and tea. The meals are not big either. The idea is 1 - to bring my BG down and 2 - to lose some weight. Neither is working so far. Of course, if the insulin I take before breakfast doesn't control my BG then it remains out of control for the rest of the day, requiring a larger dose of insulin before the evening meal just to keep it within reasonable boundaries, but if I miss that meal and therefore miss the insulin dose it does start to drop usually and has, occasionally dropped to hypo levels. By that time I'm feeling pretty sick and sorry for myself (this only happens if I am out in the afternoon/evening). We are all different and what affects one will not affect another. I just hope you can get your BG back to your normal level using the regime you have worked out for yourself.

Ann I am sorry you are struggling and I really hope you will get to where you want to be. I know nothing about combining use of insulin and eating and I have never been on any meds for Diabetes but I can well appreciate it must be very challenging. My verybest wishes to you Ann and I hope you find a way you are happy with.

 

[shelley262]

@Viv19 pleased you found the magic pill informative. I’d love my adult autistic son to try low carb or keto but he will only eat a few things and of course all of them are eitherhigh carb and or highly processed foods. As he’s now 43 it’s very hard to change things just wished I’d known what I know now when we were both younger! Good luck with your ongoing yoghurt experiment
@Annb life sounds complex for you at times and know how difficult it is with an adult autistic son. At least being diagnosed even at an older adult age you can maybe understand things a bit more. Our son was diagnosed in his 20s and it does help us to cope better at times knowing why.... interesting isn’t it the link between autoimmune diseases all very prevalent in our wider family - crohns, asthma, eczema, autism etc.
@Brunneria it is hard sometimes this thread for being tempted - I had to chase up my low carb cakesthis afternoon as still not dispatched and they have promised to bake and post tomorrow with next day delivery
@PenguinMum it can be so hard working out what puts those bgs up. I’ve found trialling a libre sensor invaluable for working it out and stress is definitely my main riser.
@DJC3 ross enjoyable but got soaked several times! However driven into the shops I actually found a large wonderful cauliflower and plan to make cauliflower rice and freeze it as completely out of it - plus cauliflower cheese may appear tomorrow!
Breakfast in cafe in Ross streaky bacon and two poached eggs
Lunch taken with me chicken leg
Dinner frittata and green salad with white wine spritzer followed by a few berries and clottedcream. About to have a few pieces of 100% choc with decaf coffee.
Back to caring duties tomorrow!

 

[Goonergal]

Evening all.

Waaaay too much food today. One of those constantly feeling peckish days.

M&S Serrano ham and manchego cheese rollitos, bacon eggs and cheese at the cafe near work and then an assortment of snacks and nibbles. Lindt 90%, some lamb crackling, serious pig (appropriate name) snacking cheese, salted almonds and some almond butter and cream.

Back on the straight and narrow tomorrow.

 

[shelley262]

Evening all.

Waaaay too much food today. One of those constantly feeling peckish days.

M&S Serrano ham and manchego cheese rollitos, bacon eggs and cheese at the cafe near work and then an assortment of snacks and nibbles. Lindt 90%, some lamb crackling, serious pig (appropriate name) snacking cheese, salted almonds and some almond butter and cream.

Back on the straight and narrow tomorrow.

Funny for the serious pig cheese! What a strange name for cheese

 

[Goonergal]

Funny for the serious pig cheese! What a strange name for cheese

It’s dried cheese - a bit like the Whisps. Very tasty and thankfully in smaller (24g) packs.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Serious-Pig-Crunchy-Snacking-Cheese/dp/B07PY87MGQ

 

[Brunneria]

Evening all.

Waaaay too much food today. One of those constantly feeling peckish days.

M&S Serrano ham and manchego cheese rollitos, bacon eggs and cheese at the cafe near work and then an assortment of snacks and nibbles. Lindt 90%, some lamb crackling, serious pig (appropriate name) snacking cheese, salted almonds and some almond butter and cream.

Back on the straight and narrow tomorrow.

Ha! You know why you were so hungry? All the cakey stuff yesterday. Polyols and vegan fats, and dairy substitutes.
They get me like that, too.

 

[Goonergal]

Ha! You know why you were so hungry? All the cakey stuff yesterday. Polyols and vegan fats, and dairy substitutes.
They get me like that, too.

Yes, you’re probably right. My boss had an ice cream float at our lunchtime meeting and I was almost tempted! Years since I had one of those.

Large steak in the fridge for tomorrow night

 

[PenguinMum]

@shelley262 thanks for rhinking of me with all that is all encompassing in your life. I think if my ‘first half of day’ levels dont improve soon I will think of trialing a Libre for info. I suppose I have been stressed about my friends (in remission) cancer (she is like a sister to me and part of our family) but I certainly havent realised it. But going up and down to Kent and sorting things out for her in the last week or so maybe? Who knows...Diabetes is likes to throw a curved ball. You manage it so well and are very inspiring to me. Thank you.