COVID-19 and Remission

speedboy21

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Hi I have been in remission since December but still got my flu jab and eye screening. What do I do about covid 19 do i still have to isolate for 12 from saturday??
 

speedboy21

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Got clarification from Dr. I am OK not to isolate for 12 weeks at the moment
 

ianf0ster

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Since Diabetics (T1 or T2) don't fall into the COVID19 higher risk category, it's no surprise that you don't have to self isolate.
However it is only sensible to practice Social Distancing as much as possible because all the stats from China, Korea, Italy seem to show more deaths among diabetics , but with no breakdown as to Type and whether well or badly controlled.
Neither is there any sign of a scientific theory as to why more diabetics should have died - unless the Covid19 infection causes their BG levels to spike high enough to do it.
 
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snowmonkey

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I am in a similar boat, not full remission (i.e. no meds) but with metformin, I am scoring in the 31-36 Hb1aC range.

Called the doctors, for advice but they simply won't give me any tailored medical advice to me as to whether I fall into the vulnerable category. Pretty unhelpful.

But Diabetics are listed on government guidance.

Oh well...
 

Mbaker

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I am in a similar boat, not full remission (i.e. no meds) but with metformin, I am scoring in the 31-36 Hb1aC range.

Called the doctors, for advice but they simply won't give me any tailored medical advice to me as to whether I fall into the vulnerable category. Pretty unhelpful.

But Diabetics are listed on government guidance.

Oh well...
How long have you had those A1c's, they are well within full remission numbers.
 

Brunneria

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Regarding 'remission', I would suggest that normal blood glucose levels are less significant than normal insulin levels - and we don't get tested for those by most health care providers.
 

snowmonkey

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Tablets (oral)
How long have you had those A1c's, they are well within full remission numbers.
18 months. But with metformin (yum yum), they said I can cut them down if I wish.

Oct 17 - 113 Diagnosed. Low Carb commenced.
Jan 18 - 38
May 18 - 38
Oct 18 - 31
Jun 19 - 36
Dec 19 - 36

Lost 3 stone of fat (15st 6lbs down to 12st 6lbs) and I exercise regularly...

I don't really Low Carb any more but am still careful with consumption of sweet things.
 
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Carbon

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I am type 2 but well controlled... mostly, looked on 111 website last night & it says they will contact vulnerable people from Monday 24th March....
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Carbon

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23rd....
Was worried, as I work in a supermarket & it's been terrible for last couple of weeks...
People buying anything & everything...
 
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snowmonkey

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Thanks Carbon.. that is significantly more helpful than my Doctors surgery receptionist, who just said that the Doctors could not offer me any advice or indeed have a telecon to discuss.
 

TriciaWs

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Since Diabetics (T1 or T2) don't fall into the COVID19 higher risk category, it's no surprise that you don't have to self isolate.
However it is only sensible to practice Social Distancing as much as possible because all the stats from China, Korea, Italy seem to show more deaths among diabetics , but with no breakdown as to Type and whether well or badly controlled.
Neither is there any sign of a scientific theory as to why more diabetics should have died - unless the Covid19 infection causes their BG levels to spike high enough to do it.

Diabetics are included in the list of vulnerable people advised to stay home for 12 weeks. OK, not strictly self-isolating as they can have contact with people in their household, but not outside if they can avoid it.
 
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HSSS

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That higher % who will be contacted is not diabetes alone. It is cancer patients, transplant patients etc.

There are 3 levels.

1. Most people.

2. Higher risk (us in here generally)
We are advising those who are at increased risk of severe illness from coronavirus (COVID-19) to be particularly stringent in following social distancing measures.
This group includes those who are:
3. Highest risk of all - who will be contacted next week

People falling into this group are those who may be at particular risk due to complex health problems such as:​
  • people who have received an organ transplant and remain on ongoing immunosuppression medication
  • people with cancer who are undergoing active chemotherapy or radiotherapy
  • people with cancers of the blood or bone marrow such as leukaemia who are at any stage of treatment
  • people with severe chest conditions such as cystic fibrosis or severe asthma (requiring hospital admissions or courses of steroid tablets)
  • people with severe diseases of body systems, such as severe kidney disease (dialysis)
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...protecting-older-people-and-vulnerable-adults
 

poemagraphic

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WIFI, Mobile phones. Smart metres... in fact anything 'smart'
Run for the hills... just avoid those pesky ramblers and mountain bike nutters.
Po
 

woollygal

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I am type 2 but well controlled... mostly, looked on 111 website last night & it says they will contact vulnerable people from Monday 24th March.... View attachment 39503
My dr said they won’t be contacting anyone it’s down to us to decide. She said they are as confused as us because they have too little info
 

HSSS

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We should be following this as best possible. Obviously if you choose to do more and actually isolate that is your choice depending on your circumstances. https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...protecting-older-people-and-vulnerable-adults


What is social distancing?
Social distancing measures are steps you can take to reduce the social interaction between people. This will help reduce the transmission of coronavirus (COVID-19).

They are:

  1. Avoid contact with someone who is displaying symptoms of coronavirus (COVID-19). These symptoms include high temperature and/or new and continuous cough
  2. Avoid non-essential use of public transport, varying your travel times to avoid rush hour, when possible
  3. Work from home, where possible. Your employer should support you to do this. Please refer to employer guidance for more information
  4. Avoid large gatherings, and gatherings in smaller public spaces such as pubs, cinemas, restaurants, theatres, bars, clubs
  5. Avoid gatherings with friends and family. Keep in touch using remote technology such as phone, internet, and social media
  6. Use telephone or online services to contact your GP or other essential services
Everyone should be trying to follow these measures as much as is pragmatic.

We strongly advise you to follow the above measures as much as you can and to significantly limit your face-to-face interaction with friends and family if possible, particularly if you:
  • are over 70
  • have an underlying health condition
  • are pregnant
This advice is likely to be in place for some weeks.
 

HSSS

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My dr said they won’t be contacting anyone it’s down to us to decide. She said they are as confused as us because they have too little info
If you only have diabetes then we aren’t in the group that are supposed to be being contacted next week.
 

WackyJacky64

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Diabetics are included in the list of vulnerable people advised to stay home for 12 weeks. OK, not strictly self-isolating as they can have contact with people in their household, but not outside if they can avoid it.
I haven't been told that and I am carer for my mum . I'm not staying in for 12 weeks i refuse .
 

HSSS

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I haven't been told that and I am carer for my mum . I'm not staying in for 12 weeks i refuse .
So far unless at extremely high risk (cancer/transplants/cf etc) we have been told to limit social contact (not totally isolate) as much as possible for our own sakes as we are higher risk, and to help protect others in our own higher risk group and even more so those in the extremely high risk group.

Do you mean going to your mum’s and associated activities, food shopping and work if you can’t do so from home or in general for socialising?

Refusing to take as many measures as are practical is foolhardy and irresponsible. How would you feel if you gave it to your mum?