Diabetes Burnout.

G0ldengirl68

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Icy, cold winds where I live, when I want to be outside ;)

Lainie71

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The term "big boned" lol repeatedly told this growing up!
I get frustrated as I cannot seem to eat anything except greens things and meat in small doses. Sometimes I feel like giving up - but I have come so far in such a short time :bigtears:
 

G0ldengirl68

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I think the baking will be a lot of help for me because I can't afford the ready-made, plus I don't trust it either. There's recipes galore, but baking takes time and willingness. When I want something to eat I can't just grab something safe unless it's ready to eat. I don't get really bad hunger pains, but I get them. Yesterday I didn't want to eat so much dairy (to go more Keto) but I had to grab some to make a full meal. I only ate 694 calories total and 14g of carbs. Today has to be different as I know that's not enough for me.

Hang in their Lainie, I think if we are eating balanced meals, minus things that we know aren't healthy like sugar, we'll do fine.
 
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G0ldengirl68

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Yes G0ldengirl68 but what about the craving of pancakes :arghh::arghh:
Did you do some experimenting then testing sweetie?? If I have a good, or better count, I look at my food diary to make sure what and how many carbs I ate. Oh, the other thing I know for you was you thought the Almond flour didn't set right with you. So I also should have asked if you ate some of the other things, while eliminating the Almond Flour. Then if you get a reaction, you might have got the other from something else, not the almond flour. There is also coconut flour. I know these different flours are, well, different, but I just love the new foods, it takes some time to realize they are so yummy and I have no cravings, honest I don't.

You can still make pancakes, and there is even syrup. I know our food industries focus on "enticing us" with a lot of unhealthy stuff, but they are slowly coming round because so many people are getting sick from non-nutritional food ;)

Do you need some easy recipes to try, or a Food Diary to help you out? I could give you a link or two on recipes, and there are several here. For Diaries, I bet this forum can recommend some good ones. I won't because I don't want folks to think I'm trying to sell something ;) But tracking my foods, just even 2 weeks, while testing you can get amazing info about your body. I've lost 10 lbs as of this a.m. I couldn't believe it as I've been lazy for a week not exercising, just daily chores etc.

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G0ldengirl68

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Here's just one I googled but have not tried @Lainie71 and it might be one to try out. Says it has 1 carb, but someone here might know about the other ingredients to be sure if it's a good recipe. Let me know if you try it ;)
https://www.diabetesdaily.com/blog/gluten-free-low-carb-coconut-flour-pancakes-592220/

It also mentions a syrup you can buy that is carb free using Monk Fruit. I know nothing about Monk Fruit as I like my Stevia, but I would try this syrup just to see if I could avoid making my own ;) Well, I do know many say Monk Fruit is top-notch for a sugar-alternative.
 
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Mike d

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From where was this sourced? Relevance to the thread?
 
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philly1991

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Is there anybody who has previously experienced burnout but overcome this? I'm really struggling at the minute, I've been attempting to engage again for months but I'm really not coping. Any tips would be great. I had been seeing a lovely DSN almost weekly but she retired in July and I've seen nobody since, it's like they just forgot about me. So I've basically just been trying to help myself which as I know from what I'm experiencing now does not work.
 

ickihun

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Is there anybody who has previously experienced burnout but overcome this? I'm really struggling at the minute, I've been attempting to engage again for months but I'm really not coping. Any tips would be great. I had been seeing a lovely DSN almost weekly but she retired in July and I've seen nobody since, it's like they just forgot about me. So I've basically just been trying to help myself which as I know from what I'm experiencing now does not work.
Myself I had my treatment plan changed by hospital but I did not have this forum then.
Have you read any testimonials and successes on the forum. I found them very empowering.
I definitely conquered mine and made my recovery a new project and treated it as a long term project by having small aims then starting the next one, then next til I'm here today insulin free. It has been messed about by covid restrictions but I treated it as a barrier I knew would resolve or become less pressured, eventually. I too just carried on regardless through covid with my aims for my recovery. The masks- limitations just reminded me that my grandparents survived the war and many death threatening illnesses/viruses extra without vaccines then, of which my generation and younger take for granted. I have been very very lucky considering my barriers due to ignorance and lack of intelligence regarding my childhood health problems.
What is YOUR whole aim for your diabetes? What would you find the beginning step to be?
I'm sure many forum members know how you have been feeling. It's been bizarre to say the least.
Have you pinpointed why you started your burnout @philly1991 ?
I've examined why mine occurred and it was because I wasn't ready to acknowledge how much diabetes can influence my fast moving life. I had alot of pressure at home about moving house with a baby, young child and an ill partner. So I moved everything back to the North-East where I grew up and knew a home would be far easier for me to manage even with all of the responsibilities. Rather than half. My good friends were fantastic and helped without any further stress. My diabetes was put to the very back of the queue of maintenance. Which I will never do again. Its hugely important for the clockwork of our family mechanic's now. No matter who criticises my choice. After all if they cared they would want me healthy and happy too. And that is very important. I think many giving people forget that truth.
Are you under alot of pressure now and before covid @philly1991? Can you bypass it to put yourself first with your diabetes needs? It will be looked back upon as just a temporary high maintenance period and very short in the whole picture. Once you get right it will become second nature to maintain, I promise.
I wrote my aims down in a mini diary and ticked them off.
With regards to your dn - do they know you in need of them right at this moment? Tell them what you need. They will soon tell you yes or no. Believe me. They know more you think about what's expected from their bosses. Go with what they can do for now. It's a great start.
 

G0ldengirl68

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Is there anybody who has previously experienced burnout but overcome this? I'm really struggling at the minute, I've been attempting to engage again for months but I'm really not coping. Any tips would be great. I had been seeing a lovely DSN almost weekly but she retired in July and I've seen nobody since, it's like they just forgot about me. So I've basically just been trying to help myself which as I know from what I'm experiencing now does not work.
I'm not sure if you mean burn-out as in tired, as in lethargic, no energy, or tired of the foods? I've had the "no energy" thing, off and on about 7 months now. It comes a goes with some "full of energy" days, and tired days. I eat the same every day, with variety of meats, fats and low-carb vegies (the lowest ones).

What do your average meals consist of, and how many calories (about how many) do you eat? I know if I don't eat enough, I don't have enough food (fuel). Are you cheating ;) ? I guess I should also ask if you do Keto diet, or Low Carb High Fat? Exercise, too little too much? I ask all these to myself as well if I'm not feeling up to daily tasks.

This forum has a lot of great input so please hang in there and pop in and read when you can. They've helped me a ton. Also I watch videos from different doctors on Youtube like Dr. Berg, Dr. Benjamin Bikman and a few others I've been turned onto here on the forums ;)
 

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For anyone going through tough times regarding their diabetes management and from reading on the forum how some younger type 1 members really, really struggle, this is a must read for all.Remember you are not alone.

Connecting people with diabetes

Putting the Brakes on Diabetes Burnout


Helen Edwards; Founder and Director Diabetes Counselling Onlinewww.diabetescounselling.com.au
Diabetes burn out is a common problem for many people, but what is it? Basically this occurs when you grow very tired of managing your diabetes. You might experience feelings of exhaustion and instead of sticking to your regular blood glucose checks, medications, exercise, insulin and other self care tasks, you only do them partially or possibly neglect them altogether for a period of time. It is more than just having a bad day. You just can’t seem to muster the motivation to keep on managing and the guilt and stress about what this is doing to your body just builds up…..adding to your distress.

The challenge for people living with diabetes and this includes family members and caregivers, is to walk the fine line between stress and worry about diabetes, with feeling comfortable about where diabetes sits in your life. You need to try and have perspective about what your goals are and what you can realistically manage at this moment. When you balance this you are able to better manage under times of stress and prevent burn out. One of the biggest things that can help is to have good support. This includes from family, friends, other people with diabetes and your health care team. Exercise and relaxation strategies really help. Learning mindfulness, which teaches you to worry less and be present in your daily life helps to reduce anxiety and distress. Being able to feel in control and have a tool kit for what to do when things feel like they may be getting out of control in any aspect of your life really makes a difference. Diabetes is not just about your blood glucose and stress and problems in other areas of life will have an impact on you control. So it is important to make sure you stay healthy in all areas of your life and keep on top of stress.

Diabetes is different to other chronic disease as it requires self management by you on a daily even hourly basis, with guidance from your health care team. It can be easy to become overwhelmed by all the tasks you need to do and the day to day effort needed to manage. Burn out is particularly likely if you work really hard at managing your diabetes but the results are not what you would like. It is also more likely when you have pressure or stress in other areas of your life that you feel you can not control. Diabetes burn out can last a short time, be ongoing, or can come and go. Studies have shown that a majority of people living with diabetes do experience worries, fears and negative feelings at some stage. Some high risk times where you may experience burn out due to added stress or changes in your life include:

  1. If you are not meeting diabetes targets, frustration with lack of movement towards your health goals
  2. Experiencing family/relationship problems, breakdown or violence
  3. Transition or times of change in your life
  4. Loss of someone you care about or other grief/loss
  5. Experiencing poverty or homelessness
  6. Drug and alcohol problems
  7. Problems with work and financial stress
  8. Other physical or mental health problems – such as another chronic disease, depression, mental illness, eating disorders
  9. Pregnancy – planning pregnancy and trying to conceive, during pregnancy and parenting when you have diabetes yourself
  10. Growing older and dealing with changes to your body, your health and your diabetes
  11. Diagnosis of diabetes complications
The recent 2011 study Diabetes MILES which surveyed over 3000 adults with diabetes in Australia found that overall, people were least satisfied with their health, as compared to other aspects of their life. Adults with type 2 diabetes who were using insulin had lower levels of satisfaction across all life areas (e.g. health, relationships, safety, standard of living) as compared to adults with type 1 diabetes or with those who had type 2 diabetes but were not using insulin. Adults with type 2 diabetes who were using insulin were also more likely to experience moderate to severe symptoms of depression and anxiety than other respondents. Moderate to severe depressive symptoms affected 35% of adults with type 2 on insulin, as compared to 22% of those with type 1 and 23% of those with type 2 who were not using insulin. Moderate to severe anxiety symptoms also affected 19% of adults with type 2 who were using insulin, as compared to 15% of those with type 1 and 14% of those with type 2 non-insulin-managed diabetes. Adults with type 1 diabetes were more likely to experience severe diabetes-related distress than other respondents. 28% of adults with type 1 diabetes experienced severe distress, as compared to 22% of people with type 2 insulin-managed and 17% of type 2 non insulin-managed diabetes. The most commonly reported problem area for respondents (consistent across diabetes types and treatment regimens) was worrying about the future and the development of diabetes related complications.

Rates of diabetes related distress are high yet people are often scared to ask for help, particularly if they have not been managing well. It is important that you DO ask for help and remember there is no such thing as a silly question! Most of us get tired of doing everyday tasks and diabetes sure adds to those! Few people can maintain all the tasks of diabetes care week-in, week-out AND keep blood glucose and HbA1c’s in the narrow target range all the time. Without realistic expectations and practical strategies for managing the thoughts, feelings and emotional side of diabetes, the risk of burnout is higher. The way we think and talk about diabetes has a major impact on how we feel and manage diabetes. Using words like “ high and low” blood glucose instead of “good and bad” can help and so does using CHECK instead of the word TEST when talking about blood glucose monitoring. The reality is most people have an immediate reaction to a high or low BGL. That is normal and fine, but once you have this reaction move on to looking at the number and working out how to manage this and prevent it in the future if possible.

Seven Steps to dealing with Burn out

  1. Consider what particular areas of diabetes are causing you problems – usually it is not all of it! Then develop steps for sorting these areas. Get help if needed.
  2. What else is happening in your life that might be conflicting with diabetes care, or making it harder?
  3. How might you address these things?
  4. What are your expectations for your diabetes management? Do you need to lower or increase your expectations?
  5. What sorts of thoughts and feelings are you having about diabetes/
  6. How are you managing these and are these strategies working? What have you tried?
  7. Do you have any support? Is it the right support? Is it enough support? If not, how can you get this?
Support is vital. Make sure you get this from a variety of sources:

  • Health Care Team
  • Family and friends
  • People with diabetes
  • Online and in person
  • Books, magazines and other sources of information
  • Counselling and other specialists
  • Take time out from diabetes and other stress – try to be a “human being” not always a “human doing”!
Diabetes might thrive on maths – to be corrected and added up BUT You are not a maths problem! See yourself as a sunset – not something to be solved, but appreciated –your achievements, attempts at change, dreams and goals – sit back and appreciate them from time to time and remember there is more to life than diabetes.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
 

Granny_grump_

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I’m at a loss at this stage in Diabetic road I’m on I’ve just tested blood glucose 2 hours after breakfast and it’s a whopping 13.8
I have same breakfast each day so I can monitor BG in what I eat I tried for first time Alpro Soy milk unsweetened instead of usual semi skimmed that’s all saturated fats in soy milk 0.3G per 100ml I have 200ml so that’s 0.6g saturated fat 2weetabix 0.2g saturated fat, carbs 26g small amount of blueberries and half a banana using banana for fibre same with Weetabix.
Had shock of my life after evening meal BG shot to 13.7 after beef casserole no potatoes added extra veg sprouts and green beans but had 2 dumplings with saturated fats being for both 8.2 carbs 44g carbs should have checked it before I eat them but I didn’t but know now. I don’t want to go on insulin and I’m learning my lessons again after a few years away from this site doctor has recently put me on 80mg Gliclizides to help me lower my levels which were in 7 when I got up, but since I’m trying to do low carb program my BG is going up not down. Not sure how many carbs in a day I should be on but I’m guessing it’s less than what I’m eating, any help and advice would be of help.K
 

Angelofthemarches

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I’m at a loss at this stage in Diabetic road I’m on I’ve just tested blood glucose 2 hours after breakfast and it’s a whopping 13.8
I have same breakfast each day so I can monitor BG in what I eat I tried for first time Alpro Soy milk unsweetened instead of usual semi skimmed that’s all saturated fats in soy milk 0.3G per 100ml I have 200ml so that’s 0.6g saturated fat 2weetabix 0.2g saturated fat, carbs 26g small amount of blueberries and half a banana using banana for fibre same with Weetabix.
Had shock of my life after evening meal BG shot to 13.7 after beef casserole no potatoes added extra veg sprouts and green beans but had 2 dumplings with saturated fats being for both 8.2 carbs 44g carbs should have checked it before I eat them but I didn’t but know now. I don’t want to go on insulin and I’m learning my lessons again after a few years away from this site doctor has recently put me on 80mg Gliclizides to help me lower my levels which were in 7 when I got up, but since I’m trying to do low carb program my BG is going up not down. Not sure how many carbs in a day I should be on but I’m guessing it’s less than what I’m eating, any help and advice would be of help.K
 

Angelofthemarches

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Cut out the carbs ie Weetabix and dumplings.
Go to bacon and eggs for breakfast. If you are desperate for cereal buy or make some low carb muesli. It's quite expensive to buy but you can make it yourself with ingredients like coconut flakes, low carb nuts (almonds, pecans etc) then add soy or almond milk and a few berries. Some chia and flax seeds (ground?) Would up the protein.
 

Granny_grump_

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Cut out the carbs ie Weetabix and dumplings.
Go to bacon and eggs for breakfast. If you are desperate for cereal buy or make some low carb muesli. It's quite expensive to buy but you can make it yourself with ingredients like coconut flakes, low carb nuts (almonds, pecans etc) then add soy or almond milk and a few berries. Some chia and flax seeds (ground?) Would up the protein.
Thanks Angelofthemarches I will give the homemade muesli a try and use bacon and eggs in different ways like omelettes in future grateful for your help. K
 
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Angelofthemarches

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Thanks Angelofthemarches I will give the homemade muesli a try and use bacon and eggs in different ways like omelettes in future grateful for your help. K
Other options might be:
Greek yogurt with some berries/nuts/seeds. I sometimes make homemade keto olive and feta bread - yum!
Sometimes I buy low carb wraps and put cooked chicken and avocado in.
Sometimes I make pancakes with almond flour, egg, almond or soy milk and top with berries and Stevia or erithrytol sweetenet
 
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