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Diabetes Burnout.

Discussion in 'Diabetes Discussions' started by catherinecherub, Mar 26, 2010.

  1. Robinredbreast

    Robinredbreast Type 1 · Oracle

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    Sending big ((( (HUGS ))))) as you have been through so much. I hope you will comeback and let us know how you are X
     
  2. Robinredbreast

    Robinredbreast Type 1 · Oracle

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    Hi @ThaxT1D, never be ashamed, diabetes is just a small part of who you are.
    I wish you all the colours of the rainbow - except blue x
     
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    ThaxT1D · Member

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    When your spouse moves out of the bedroom and no longer loves you ?
    Tell me my life wasn’t wrecked by T1d ! I dare you. Sadness shame and it’s my fault. Autoimmune means you did it yourself.
    remember god is spelled in lower case. Because she/he does not exist.
    Happiness gone.
     
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  4. ickihun

    ickihun Type 2 · Master

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    I hear your pain. What should be different in your life? You go fight for everything you want. If you want it badly enough. I hear your feistiness so you go get what you should have. You can do this!
     
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  5. Robinredbreast

    Robinredbreast Type 1 · Oracle

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    It's supposed to be through sickness and health, love and care, if I had a partner who did that, who treated me with such
    indifference, I wouldn't want to be with such a person :(
    Any autoimmune conditions, is when the body attacks it's self, no blame whatsoever to that person.
    Take care

    .
     
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  6. Hatpacker

    Hatpacker Type 2 · Newbie

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    This all sounds so easy. The body is a bothersome thing. I think I have the diabetesII under control. Insulin and pills at regular and appropriate times, not too many carbs, fresh cooked diet, home made soups, often vegan friendly even though I like eating meat. Then for no reason I can fathom up go the blood glucose numbers. More insulin if I do it right 70 units of insulin then 95 units at bed time. Usually a 12 fast between 9pm and 9am. When the BGL Go up I stop taking my medications. Wrong? Probably but it keeps me sane, just about. Diabetes is a pernicious nasty disease that gets worse over time no matter how well you stick to the medication regime. Don’t get me started on why I think the medication exacerbates the diabetes rather than helps.
     
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  7. Robinredbreast

    Robinredbreast Type 1 · Oracle

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    Diabetes can be predictably unpredictable. I can't really comment on your management, but without Insulin, I wouldn't be here. Sometimes we feel so exasperated and so frustrated with diabetes and the BG's, I know I have many, many times. but still battling on and remembering my signature :
    TYPE 1 since 1989, SOLDIER IN THE INSULIN ARMY, FIGHTING THE WAR AGAINST DIABETES

    Take care and stay safe.
     
  8. ianf0ster

    ianf0ster Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi Hatpacker, Although Carbohydrates in excess of what your body can tolerate is the main reason for high BGL in a Type 2 diabetic, there are lots of other things which can spike BGLs including:
    1. Stress
    2. Lack of Sleep
    3. Other medications such as statins and Steroids
    4. Infections
    5. Injury

    If you are cutting carbs then that seems like a very large amount of insulin you are taking.

    It puzzles me as to why you mention often eating 'vegan friendly' when you say you like meat. It is much harder to go l9ow carb on and still get your protein and nutrients on a vegan way of eating and so unless you are trying to cut out meat for ethical reasons I don't see why you would want to make it harder for you to be healthy. Note that those extraordinarily healthy 100+ yr olds in Japan are not vegan - they eat a heck of a lot of fish (and some also eat meat). Even many of the 7th Day Adventists in Loma Linda eat meat once per week (they still call themselves vegan if they do so).

    Why would you stop the medications when your BGL is high? - The whole point of them is to reduce the BGL in the short term (with the longer term effect of making your insulin resistance worse, your weight higher and you pancreas more worn out in the longer term). We all know that long term it makes no sense to give increasing doses of Insulin a T2 diabetic, just as it makes no sense in the long term to use medications which wring as much Insulin as possible out of the pancreas until it fails and effectively puts them in the same state as a Type 1 of having no natural insulin production.
     
  9. ShailyManohat

    ShailyManohat · Newbie

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    I think most of us are likely to go through this frustration period, if not worse. I still have times when I want to give up. But progress will provide support and led to small victories... Although it's also like a religion in which you think everyone else is "unbelievers" full of false stereotypical impressions of what DM is and still ready to give advice and experience. Remember, you're not the only one to go through this and many other things you thought and felt rasped. Just to say I sat and cried saying all I want is a moment of peace when I've been in a hypo state for 24 hours. But after 17 years I'm still here and I'm still fighting. Never ever allow your to win.
     
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    Robinredbreast, amazing post. Thank you very much!
     
  11. aard

    aard · Well-Known Member

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    well I for one feel totally burnt out and have given up over xmas. Everything I like has carbs in it.

    Of course this has resulted in me having the highest blood sugar recordings I have ever recorded and the last two days I have literally collapsed and zone out for couple of hours from diabetes related sleepyness.

    So tommorow I guess it's back to the grind following awful diet because the only thing worse than low carb diet is feeling like **** every day due to diabetes :(
     
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  12. Ymdawd

    Ymdawd Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    If truth be known we all probably have periods like this. As you correctly point out most likeable food has significant amounts of carbs in it. Been there done that.
    Unless diabetes is going to win the war you just have to knuckle down and get on with it. Hang on in there my friend.
     
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  13. Sheepish

    Sheepish Type 2 · Newbie

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    Hello, I'm totally with you that everything I like has carbs in it. I had my annual mince pie and a very small roast potato on Christmas Day, then back to the **** 'it-isn't-a-diet' diet. No idea how much my BG spiked because the diabetes nurse won'tlet me test. I'd be even more anxious and obsessive than I am already, apparently! I never felt physically bad with diabetes; didn't know I had it for probably 10 years or more, but I've felt bereaved, depressed and anxious about food since I got the diagnosis. I hope you can keep going. I just tell myself I only have today to get through, then do it again the next day. You're not alone!


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  14. 1970clea

    1970clea Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    If the diabetes nurse doesn't recommend testing you can still get your own meter and test strips for a reasonable price. The ones I get from Amazon are about £14 for 100 strips, as I don't get any from my doctors either. Testing really helps work out the food that have to go.
    I have tried many meters over the years, they seem to be much improved these days though. Currently using a Gluconavii.
     
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    Sheepish Type 2 · Newbie

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    Thank you. Quite a few people have said this. I had no intention of asking the NHS to pay for it, anyway. I'll look into it further, though the market seems rather saturated. I only need to have an adjustable lancet (seriously needle phobic!) and not anything highly technical.
     
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  16. aard

    aard · Well-Known Member

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    you dont see the needles, even when you take lancet apart they are really small.
    I could never put a needle in my like say drug users.

    They feel flat to touch and you press them in like the end of a pen , at least the one i have. I originally thought they would be like syringes.
     
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    Fluffycat_ Type 2 · Member

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    Just found the thread it's very intresting I am struggling at them moment as I have been off work sick with a chest infection since nov and still not going away. I am struggling to eat. As constant antibiotics make me loose my appitate or not eat sensible. It is dose not help i have other health issues. I am the main cook and find it hard to cook decent meals for 1 when my mom is unable to eat as she has gastroprisis so often has sick days where can't eat as being physically sick.

    I am having trouble with ladies prombles as well so get really bad cravings for either sweet or savory.
    Had a routine when i was at work but now no routine as i am just sleeping a lot. So making bad choices as don't want to cook. My cravings at the moment is bread sticks i have a few most days as this month is a savory carbs craving can be sweet like chocolate.

    I have a gp who never see we don't have a diabetic nurse as she left and it is now managed by the very busy practice nurses I have not seen them in person for over a year as due to covid no face to face at my dr's I have my annual blood done just get all ok contiune with the metformin 1000 mg (2 × 500g) after evening meal as take a very slow release coated tablets as others trigger my ibs.
     
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  18. jokei

    jokei Type 1 · Newbie

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    So, having read the literature on what to do about burnout, I cannot at all say I am impresed.

    * I don't want to discuss this with friends, family members or any kind of support, that is just further reinforcement of how I hate being diabetic.

    * Give myself a treat day. A treat day would involve not being a diabetic - but, let's say I do, a "treat day" doess nothing to balance out the grinding tedium of it all and pre-diabetess for me a treat day would have involved cocaine and lots of alcohol and an element of surprise at where I woke up, but none of that now. A chocolate bar? Wow.

    It's been burnout ssince day one and I'm now in year 6 and even with the odd indulgence here and there, it'ss still the ssame grinding bull ****. Go see my GP? Well, maybe if the GP had had ssome competence and actually advised me I could die if I didn't go see the pre-diabetes team or whatever, then perhaps I'd have some sembleance of not wanting to make the GP cry at every given opportunity, she's got Tourettes, every time I go she tells me she'ss got Tourettes, I've been asking her about her medication for Tourettes, because apparently I'm the GP now, maybe we should put it in my medical notes that my GP has Tourettes? Change my GP, they're all the same insipid * that irritate me.

    Yeah, it's a bit angry, but for 6 years I've been nothing but angry.
     
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  19. SaskiaKC

    SaskiaKC Type 2 · Expert

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    Your "we all" doesn't include me because I did not know this. Nor do I know what medications you are talking about that "wring" insulin out of the pancreas. I would like to know.
     
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    ianf0ster Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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