Mr_Pot
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- Type of diabetes
- Type 2
- Treatment type
- Diet only
It is, but it is well moderated and avoids most of the negativity of Facebook and the like.Isn't this forum a form of social media?
It is, but it is well moderated and avoids most of the negativity of Facebook and the like.Isn't this forum a form of social media?
Like I said when I touched someone else's nerve, I understand that it isn't easy to lose fat particularly if you are insulin resistant and that there are some conditions of which I am unaware such plus ones that I am but these are rare aren't they? I don't know what your diagnosis is and if you want to tell me rather than ranting I will get clued up about it and this online corner of the world will be better for it.Yes, this has struck a nerve about what is wrong with perception of some, and the root of the anti fat shaming movement (which i can understand although I dont agree with the lengths some go to in it)
If you, or anyone else, can tell me how I can lose my weight, after nearly 40 of dieting, including nearly 10 years of low carbing and controlling my blood sugar levels, please let me know.
I have been my exact same weight (19 stones) for 23 years, since something went wrong with my body and I gained 7 stones in 10 months and have never lost it. I was not slim to begin with either.
So yes I am ranting at you, and other like you, who are ill informed and incorrect and hurtful.
a simple apology for your wrong assumption would be nice.Like I said when I touched someone else's nerve, I understand that it isn't easy to lose fat particularly if you are insulin resistant and that there are some conditions of which I am unaware such plus ones that I am but these are rare aren't they? I don't know what your diagnosis is and if you want to tell me rather than ranting I will get clued up about it and this online corner of the world will be better for it.
I was equally ranty when Katie Hopkins put on weight in order to demonstrate that fat people are just greedy and lazy. To me this belief is just as ignorant as those of Fat Acceptance.
The OP was on fat shaming but I suppose what we're all striving to do here is improve our diabetes status and I hope we could agree on that?
a simple apology for your wrong assumption would be nice.
When someone says something both untrue and hurtful, I will push back. This is not ranting. Look on this forum at least to see how many are unable to lose weight. This is not the first time you have said this, and been called out for it. Please start learning. I fail to see what you mean by my diagnosis, or why it is relevant. I am a type 2 diabetic, it says so on my profile.
Perhaps you are still unaware that many people cant lose weight no matter what - why else would people undergo serious surgery (for example) to address this? I dont know why you think it is rare, or a complex or obscure condition also has to be in play. Look at the numbers of those who have bariatric surgery, for example. Its not rare.
First, avoid using social media
I read in another post that you've been diabetic but med free for years in spite of no weight loss. To me that is much more important than whether you are fat or not. I won't apologise because you took offense. As ever I am trying to understand why it is so hard for people to lose weight hence my question to you. I am actually curious because I have a husband who has a 40+ bmi and finds it very hard for all sorts of reasons so I think it is an important question.a simple apology for your wrong assumption would be nice.
When someone says something both untrue and hurtful, I will push back. This is not ranting. Look on this forum at least to see how many are unable to lose weight. This is not the first time you have said this, and been called out for it. Please start learning. I fail to see what you mean by my diagnosis, or why it is relevant. I am a type 2 diabetic, it says so on my profile.
Perhaps you are still unaware that many people cant lose weight no matter what - why else would people undergo serious surgery (for example) to address this? I dont know why you think it is rare, or a complex or obscure condition also has to be in play. Look at the numbers of those who have bariatric surgery, for example. Its not rare.
I read in another post that you've been diabetic but med free for years in spite of no weight loss. To me that is much more important than whether you are fat or not. I won't apologise because you took offense. As ever I am trying to understand why it is so hard for people to lose weight hence my question to you. I am actually curious because I have a husband who has a 40+ bmi and finds it very hard for all sorts of reasons so I think it is an important question.
why would you be accused of 'mansplaining'? That is a very different thing from being a male expanding on something. I will reserve my own opinion on what I take personally, but recognise your intentions are friendly.What exactly is untrue and hurtful about?
" I object to the idea that fat people can't change their body size" which I think is what you are claiming to be untrue and hurtful, please correct me if I am wrong.
@NicoleC1971 specifically did not say "I think everyone can lose weight easily"
Fat people can and do change their body size. When discussing the HAES "movement" this becomes an "awful" thing to do.
Taking everything personally really doesn't help much.. (he says waiting to be accused of "mansplaining").
please clarify what you meant by 'I object to the idea that people cant change their body size' as, to me, it reads as people choose not to lose weight, rather than trying their best and it not happening.I read in another post that you've been diabetic but med free for years in spite of no weight loss. To me that is much more important than whether you are fat or not. I won't apologise because you took offense. As ever I am trying to understand why it is so hard for people to lose weight hence my question to you. I am actually curious because I have a husband who has a 40+ bmi and finds it very hard for all sorts of reasons so I think it is an important question.
Wow, I never realised a lot of this.
Right these are my thoughts.
I liked the way someone said an ex smoker, that’s so true.
Ok even when I was big, my size didn’t bother me. As I am very confident person.
But totally appreciate the larger seats. A few times I couldn’t get into Booths at restaurants. I maybe so have done something about it then, but that life.
Anyway I don’t think thin privilege, actually exists. so much blood sweat and tears have gone into losing weight. Especially the last year with the gyms closing.
Lastly I don’t want to sound like a ****, but I believe now anyone can lose weight.
It is an energy balance at the end of the day. Your having to much calories. Even with low carb high fat this can still happen. Don’t get much insulin resistance make it harder but not impossible.
If you are struggling, make try and a nutritionist and look at your diet by diet I mean the way you eat.
You could also try a food log and be honest. I found the amount of little trips to the kitchen in a day. With handful of food each time. That I wasn’t counting. It all adds up.
Do you mean people who have been on low calorie diets (sometimes for decades) without result should go even lower cal than is advised by any nutritionist?I believe now anyone can lose weight.
It is an energy balance at the end of the day. Your having to much calories.
Yes, for me too. The difference is I didn't get the benefit of actually losing the weight...so much blood sweat and tears have gone into losing weight.
Lastly I don’t want to sound like a ****, but I believe now anyone can lose weight.
Really? I didn't lose weight on 800 cals a day. I did get ill though.It is an energy balance at the end of the day. Your having to much calories. Even with low carb high fat this can still happen. Don’t get much insulin resistance make it harder but not impossible.
You could also try a food log and be honest. I found the amount of little trips to the kitchen in a day. With handful of food each time. That I wasn’t counting. It all adds up.
this makes me sad. very sad. Please read the posts on here from those of us who cant lose weight, no matter what. Have a think about this issue. I assure you, hand on heart, that I am eating a max of 1200 cals a day and no weight moves. I have been under medical supervision for weight loss and nope, no weight loss. I am not the only one in this position. There is so much we dont know about how individual bodies work.Lastly I don’t want to sound like a ****, but I believe now anyone can lose weight.
Do you now accept that it is not possible, for various reasons, for some of us to not lose weight?There is a lot of factors is weight loss.
There is Hormones play a key role.
There is metabolic damage, where body is not make you lose weight. Holding on to your stores if fat.
One of the ways around this is reverse dieting. Which is really difficult.
Also dropping calories to many to quickly can cause weight to stay.
Also not being woman, but James smith does a great TED talk about woman hormones and weight loss. Really interesting.
I will be two in years in October. So it been pretty consistent now, even through a pandemic.
I was just using the example of of going to the kitchen. I was a nightmare with my food. I finish a meal and get seconds or a sandwich all the time. I would have take aways or eat out a couple of times a week. Washed down with serval beers.
So I had to totally changed my life style. To lose weight.
So I had to totally changed my life style. To lose weight.
But you had a lot to change, so it worked. Some of us don't have much they can change. I can't cut out snacks or junk food or beer - I did that years ago.So I had to totally changed my life style. To lose weight.