Diabetes moral support chat

[Zhnyaka]

I thought we needed a chat where you can just whine a little about cases in which you understand what happened and why and you know what to do, but you just want to whine about it to someone who, unlike your friends or relatives without diabetes, will not be afraid for you, but will say that- something like "oh, it happens to me too."

I had hypo last night and ate too many sweets to relieve it and eventually woke up with BG 16. It's so depresing! When I'm shaking from hypo, I just can't stop eating and usually then I inject insulin almost immediately so that bg doesn't rise, but last night I fell asleep and had to knock down hyperglycemia for half a day, because I always want to prick too much insulin and as a result my bg falls again. While your bg is normal, it's not difficult to keep it, but as soon as it goes beyond the scope, it's so difficult to get it back to normal!

 

[Lamont D]

One of the pitfalls of having hypos is known as the rebound effect.
If I treated a hypo with too much carbs, I would almost certainly have another spike, triggering more insulin, symptoms and another hypo.

As far as I am aware, it isn't talked about much on here, but I don't read many of the T1 threads.
There is a other name for it, but the word is locked away somewhere.

Why not discuss our experience and how we got here.

The mental aspects of having diabetes or RH in my case, can ask a lot of your world view of medicine and the practitioners who in different parts of the world are so similar yet so different.

 

[Zhnyaka]

If I treated a hypo with too much carbs, I would almost certainly have another spike, triggering more insulin, symptoms and another hypo.

all the insulin I can have is in my syringe pen

The mental aspects of having diabetes or RH in my case, can ask a lot of your world view of medicine and the practitioners who in different parts of the world are so similar yet so different.

I almost started praying to the doctors after I was diagnosed with diabetes , because the doctors saved my life. I understand that doctors are the same people as everyone else, but still for me they are almost gods. Although incompetent specialists in my mind are somewhere on the level of serial killers haha, my attitude to medicine is too inadequate

 

[Lamont D]

If I was writing a story about my specialist endocrinologist, the man who saved my life by diagnosis, it would be a circumstance of a coming together at a certain time and place, which many would find as if we were destined to meet.

it was only a couple of months previous that because the following of a hypo in my surgery, I was referred because my surgery (many doctors) couldn't understand why I was going hypo!
my endo had only been given my case, because of the hypo and was expecting a T1 or LADA. If it was a general referral to the endocrinology dept of my local hospital, I would have got another endo. And like the endo I had years before that, this endo didn't have a clue, and referred me back to my surgery as a T2.
My new endo, had only taken this post about six months earlier and subsequently was looking to move back to his hometown area and further his career. This happened about one year later and I had to travel a good two hours there and back for my appointments. But I still had my tests done at my local hospital.
I was fortunate to meet him and even though I'm not religious, I would like to thank whoever made this come about!
And his religious beliefs are a complete unknown to me but I would praise him so much.
I know that his career path is very good becoming a professor of endocrinology and l would like to think that the diagnosis I got was an integral part because of the work he achieved in the tests and trials that we took part in.

Even though I know the science behind my condition, there is always the thought that comes up in deep thought, why have I got this very rare condition?
Not knowing is difficult to come to terms with, having very little information or very few people to even try to understand what I'm living with is unbelievable, even my surgery still doesn't really understand what happens to me and why food even in small amount can be very harmful.

 

[Riva_Roxaban]

I thought we needed a chat where you can just whine a little about cases in which you understand what happened and why and you know what to do, but you just want to whine about it to someone who, unlike your friends or relatives without diabetes, will not be afraid for you, but will say that- something like "oh, I'm sorry, it happens to me too."

There is a General Chat forum for rants etc.

General Chat

Talk about everything and anything; world events, what books you are reading or films you've seen, what the weather was like... it's up to you.

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/general-chat.5/

 

[EllieM]

Well, I had an absolutely terrible time last night, mostly but not entirely self inflicted.
Firstly we had a locally bought pie for supper, which I suspect I undercounted (and ate too much of because it was delicious). Then my husband had some chocolate, which I stole some of (why do I do this, it always end badly?) and so ended up with not enough bolus to cover my carbs. Then the plunger of my lantus pen decided to "stick" when I injected , so though I removed it and reinjected the last two units I have no confidence as to whether the whole dose went in.

Ended up doing several emergency bolus injections overnight and only came down to sane levels in the morning. It remains to be seen whether last night's lantus plays nicely with my system for today. Luckily I split the lantus so it's only half a day's dose that may be messed up.

As for hypos.... How I hate hate hate them. Insulin resistance means that it is very very easy for me to overtreat them, with the corresponding rebound...

 

[Zhnyaka]

There is a General Chat forum for rants etc.


https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/general-chat.5/

thanks. Do you think I chose the wrong topic? To be honest, I thought about this chat, but it seems like whining about diabetes is "on topic"

 

[Yaya10_10]

I always treat hypo with cola
It is fast and this helps me not to eat too much.

Another thing i try to reduce carb intake so i take less insulin.

Nice thread thanxxxx

 

[Zhnyaka]

Then my husband had some chocolate, which I stole some of (why do I do this, it always end badly?) and so ended up with not enough bolus to cover my carbs.

haha, I'm responsible for buying cookies for everyone in my office and every time I can't resist taking a cookie for myself. And I can just buy cookies that I don't like, but I always want to take the most delicious for my colleagues (that's probably why I was chosen as the person who should buy cookies)

As for hypos.... How I hate hate hate them. Insulin resistance means that it is very very easy for me to overtreat them, with the corresponding rebound...

T1 can have insulin resistance?! I don't have it, but I've been overdoing it a lot lately, too. I think I just need to get used to my libre, because I'm starting to give an injection for BG, which doesn't need it.

 

[Zhnyaka]

I always treat hypo with cola
It is fast and this helps me not to eat too much.

Another thing i try to reduce carb intake so i take less insulin.

Nice thread thanxxxx

I usually drink juice, it seems to act quickly too, but I'm shaking for about a minute before my bg rises enough and I manage to eat half of the contents of the refrigerator

 

[EllieM]

I usually drink juice, it seems to act quickly too, but I'm shaking for about a minute before my bg rises enough and I manage to eat half of the contents of the refrigerator

Yes, it's really hard not to eat the fridge when hypo. I find that because I don't need many carbs to treat I'm still starving when I know I've had enough... (Well, to be honest, the carbs are irrelevant here, it just takes time for bg to go up and while it's low, you are starving.)

As for the insulin resistance, I've got a T2 dad.. So I need more insulin now than I did at your age....



But I have to say that having a cgm makes a massive positive difference to my life. I love modern technology. (And insulin, I love insulin )

 

[EllieM]

thanks. Do you think I chose the wrong topic? To be honest, I thought about this chat, but it seems like whining about diabetes is "on topic"

Diabetic whining seems diabetes related to me.
Do you want me or another mod to add Diabetes or "Diabetes related" to the title, just to make it clear?

 

[Zhnyaka]

Diabetic whining seems diabetes related to me.
Do you want me or another mod to add Diabetes or "Diabetes related" to the title, just to make it clear?

Why not? let's add

 

[EllieM]

Why not? let's add

Diabetes related or just diabetes?

 

[Zhnyaka]

Diabetes related or just diabetes?

as you like

 

[himtoo]

I thought we needed a chat where you can just whine a little about cases in which you understand what happened and why and you know what to do, but you just want to whine about it to someone who, unlike your friends or relatives without diabetes, will not be afraid for you, but will say that- something like "oh, it happens to me too."

I had hypo last night and ate too many sweets to relieve it and eventually woke up with BG 16. It's so depresing! When I'm shaking from hypo, I just can't stop eating and usually then I inject insulin almost immediately so that bg doesn't rise, but last night I fell asleep and had to knock down hyperglycemia for half a day, because I always want to prick too much insulin and as a result my bg falls again. While your bg is normal, it's not difficult to keep it, but as soon as it goes beyond the scope, it's so difficult to get it back to normal!

this is a great idea... i think we are allowed to feel sorry for ourselves sometimes and to have a moan about it...living with type 1 is just so relentless and unforgiving and never gives us a day off....I too sometimes eat way too much to treat a hypo and then i am so mad at myself but it is our brain being starved and we are using our fight or flight to deal with it.

 

[Grant_Vicat]

I usually drink juice, it seems to act quickly too, but I'm shaking for about a minute before my bg rises enough and I manage to eat half of the contents of the refrigerator

Have been known to wolf down half a box of Frosties and even...
dog food! Neither did me any good.

 

[EllieM]

Have been known to wolf down half a box of Frosties and even...
dog food! Neither did me any good.

Oh wow, that is officially seriously desperate.... Which tasted better, the dog food or the frosties?

 

[Grant_Vicat]

Oh wow, that is officially seriously desperate.... Which tasted better, the dog food or the frosties?

Bearing in mind that the former occurred in pitch darkness, in a strange house, and I had thought it was malt loaf (!), dog food was even more repellant than normal I suspect.

 

[Hopeful34]

Great thread, and can totally relate to sometimes eating the contents of the fridge and cupboard when hypo, knowing full well I'm going to rebound too high. Libre helps massively though to avoid hypo's and reduce the height of the rebound.