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Just Got my Casual "Oh your blood test showed prediabetes"

Have you considered fasting to encourage Autophagy? It's an emerging area that certainly has a lot of potential. Something that's perhaps worthy of your research. It costs nothing.

 
I’ve tried the cold water method. Didn’t work. Eggs just don’t seem worth it to me

Have you tried doing them in your IP? I don't do it that way, but many folks swear by it.

If you want the HB eggs for other things than eating peeled, whole, and recognisable, they can be done, pot in pot (or bowl in a bain marie), just crack the raw eggs into a heatproof dish (stainless steel, pyrex or enamel) and do them in the IP.

Again, I haven't personbally done it, but those making loads or sarnies swear by this method as it takes away virtually all concept of shell in the egg, or wasted egg in the shell.

Just a thought.
 
Also, got a few people telling me this test results weren’t valid because I never took it fasted. This wasn’t a test for diabetes either so I will speak with my doctor today. I’m starting to think it’s all a misunderstanding
Some blood test results are affected by fasting, cholesterol being one of those. However, as others have said, an hba1c result won't be affected.
 
Ah so again the opposite is what happened is usual. Not seeing why this is such a good idea

Also, got a few people telling me this test results weren’t valid because I never took it fasted. This wasn’t a test for diabetes either so I will speak with my doctor today. I’m starting to think it’s all a misunderstanding
You sound like you're going through a lot of stages of grief all at once, which basically is normal after a diagnosis: the bargaining, the denial, the anger. Just don't shoot the messengers, we're only trying to help. ;)

First thing's first. What tests were done and what were the exact results? Diabetes and prediabetes can be diagnosed in various ways, but the most usual one is NOT a fasting test. Like I said, a HbA1c is the average of three months, and whether you have a massive McD's Happy Meal beforehand or fast for two days prior, won't make any difference. So that number is fairly reliable, as long as you're not severely iron deficient. If you weren't tested with a HbA1c but just current blood glucose, measured most likely in mmol/l, that number can tell a lot too. Fasting or no, (and it should be fasting) but it isn't as definitive as a HbA1c. So. Check what your tests were, and the resulting numbers, and then go from there. You're either prediabetic or you're not. And if you are, you have a chance to do something about it before you get complications/cross over into diabetic territory. If not, you can have some heads roll at the surgery.

Also keep in mind that there's more than carbs in that burger you had. Salt and other electrolytes, fibers, vitamin D/cholecalciferol most likely added into the bread to some extent. It's not just sugars, so what made you feel better? There really is no way to know without bloodwork from that moment.

Anyway... Get your results -often available through your practice online- or give the surgery a call for them. Today, if you can. You need to know, because this is going to drive you up the wall, otherwise. Let us know if you want to sort through your results, or check the numbers against the chart from this website.( https://www.diabetes.co.uk/what-is-hba1c.html )

I know it's not easy. It's a lot to work through, assuming the prediabetic diagnosis is correct. And if you truly feel diet is not an option for you, please seriously consider medication. And keep in mind that some conditions, especially inflammatory ones like rosacea, can flare before sputtering out. The keto diet is a rather anti-inflammatory one, which is why I only feel the rheumatism when I stray from my low carb, non cow dairy diet, or get a flu jab like yesterday's. (Auch). I have a feeling you don't want to hear any of this anyway, but hey. I tried. ;)

Good luck,
Jo
 

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You sound like you're going through a lot of stages of grief all at once, which basically is normal after a diagnosis: the bargaining, the denial, the anger. Just don't shoot the messengers, we're only trying to help. ;)

First thing's first. What tests were done and what were the exact results? Diabetes and prediabetes can be diagnosed in various ways, but the most usual one is NOT a fasting test. Like I said, a HbA1c is the average of three months, and whether you have a massive McD's Happy Meal beforehand or fast for two days prior, won't make any difference. So that number is fairly reliable, as long as you're not severely iron deficient. If you weren't tested with a HbA1c but just current blood glucose, measured most likely in mmol/l, that number can tell a lot too. Fasting or no, (and it should be fasting) but it isn't as definitive as a HbA1c. So. Check what your tests were, and the resulting numbers, and then go from there. You're either prediabetic or you're not. And if you are, you have a chance to do something about it before you get complications/cross over into diabetic territory. If not, you can have some heads roll at the surgery.

Also keep in mind that there's more than carbs in that burger you had. Salt and other electrolytes, fibers, vitamin D/cholecalciferol most likely added into the bread to some extent. It's not just sugars, so what made you feel better? There really is no way to know without bloodwork from that moment.

Anyway... Get your results -often available through your practice online- or give the surgery a call for them. Today, if you can. You need to know, because this is going to drive you up the wall, otherwise. Let us know if you want to sort through your results, or check the numbers against the chart from this website.( https://www.diabetes.co.uk/what-is-hba1c.html )

I know it's not easy. It's a lot to work through, assuming the prediabetic diagnosis is correct. And if you truly feel diet is not an option for you, please seriously consider medication. And keep in mind that some conditions, especially inflammatory ones like rosacea, can flare before sputtering out. The keto diet is a rather anti-inflammatory one, which is why I only feel the rheumatism when I stray from my low carb, non cow dairy diet, or get a flu jab like yesterday's. (Auch). I have a feeling you don't want to hear any of this anyway, but hey. I tried. ;)

Good luck,
Jo
There was no surgery. What are you talking about? I think there’s some miscommunication here on this thread too and people are jumping to conclusions. I will wait till I talk to my actual doctor
 
There was no surgery. What are you talking about? I think there’s some miscommunication here on this thread too and people are jumping to conclusions. I will wait till I talk to my actual doctor
Like Antje said, surgery, doc's office, GP's practice. Same thing... That's what you get when people write the Queen's English, American English and Canadian English all mixed together... Sorry. Kind of comes with being Dutch and learning English mainly through the BBC, American tv series/movies and living in Canada. I don't know which is which, half the time, sorry. That's also why I mix the use of the s's and z's, write colour and color..... I don't know whether I'm coming or going sometimes. :) Don't let my creative use of language (not to say botched) chase you off, eh. ;)
 
Like Antje said, surgery, doc's office, GP's practice. Same thing... That's what you get when people write the Queen's English, American English and Canadian English all mixed together... Sorry. Kind of comes with being Dutch and learning English mainly through the BBC, American tv series/movies and living in Canada. I don't know which is which, half the time, sorry. That's also why I mix the use of the s's and z's, write colour and color..... I don't know whether I'm coming or going sometimes. :) Don't let my creative use of language (not to say botched) chase you off, eh. ;)
Ah no worries, I’m Canadian. Never heard doctors office be called surgery before, not even in movies and such
 
Ok so spoke with my doctor. He confirmed the diagnosis so I am gonna go low carb I guess.

Any help with substituting for my normal carbs? I usually eat:
Oats, sweet potatoes, corn, black beans, snickers bar for after work (because work exhausts me and I’m trying to gain weight) yes GAIN as I am skinny and it’s not healthy. 150lbs and 6 feet tall. You can see my ribs.
 
Increasing protien and healthy fats (those from meat and dairy and olive oil) will keep you fuller for longer and help stop the need to snack.
You might find you drop a little weight initially but it will rise again when you've found the foods that suit you.
Some of us post our daily meals here, where you find lots of inspiration... and see how different the approaches can be depending on each individuals circumstances
 
Increasing protien and healthy fats (those from meat and dairy and olive oil) will keep you fuller for longer and help stop the need to snack.
You might find you drop a little weight initially but it will rise again when you've found the foods that suit you.
Some of us post our daily meals here, where you find lots of inspiration... and see how different the approaches can be depending on each individuals circumstances
Bro stop with this paradigm. I’m not fat, I don’t need to snack because I’m fat, i need to snack because I can’t gain weight and it’s unhealthy
 
If you need to gain weight, you need to eat more, reduce the carbs and increase the protein and fat.
If you go on myfitnesspal, and work out YOUR metabolic requirements calorie wise, then eat slightly more than that figure. Snack on cooked meats and cheese, or pork scratchings. I love Snickers with a passion, but have had to forgo them for 4 years now.:arghh:
 
If you need to gain weight, you need to eat more, reduce the carbs and increase the protein and fat.
If you go on myfitnesspal, and work out YOUR metabolic requirements calorie wise, then eat slightly more than that figure. Snack on cooked meats and cheese, or pork scratchings. I love Snickers with a passion, but have had to forgo them for 4 years now.:arghh:
I haven’t been eating candy bars regularly till this last year. Long story. Anyhow easy to stop and find something else.

What was the test and the test result diagnnosing you?
Doc said blood glucose was 6% and it was that hab1c whichever it’s called
 
Ok so spoke with my doctor. He confirmed the diagnosis so I am gonna go low carb I guess.

Any help with substituting for my normal carbs? I usually eat:
Oats, sweet potatoes, corn, black beans, snickers bar for after work (because work exhausts me and I’m trying to gain weight) yes GAIN as I am skinny and it’s not healthy. 150lbs and 6 feet tall. You can see my ribs.
Instead of oats I make up a porridge mix with 2 heaped spoons of milled flaxseed to one of chia seeds and a little oatbran. Add more seeds and or chopped nuts plus cinnamon and a little salt (we need to add salt to our diet if avoiding over-processed foods).
Use 3 heaped dessert spoons with up to 200 MLS of hot water. I microwave mine for 2 minutes but any way you cook it is fine. Serve with double cream.
That's my main non-veggie fibre for the day.
Small amount of beans are ok.
I use small amounts of butternut squash, acorn squash, etc - just check the (net) carbs per 100g as some have more than others.
Keto chocolate bars, or make your own snack with grated dark chocolate plus seeds or nuts - melt the chocolate in a bowl placed into a larger bowl of just boiled water then add the nuts. put spoonfuls onto foil or parchment and leave to cool.
Alternatively, make nut butter balls - any nut butter mixed with coconut flour until firm enough to roll into balls. roll in a little more coconut flour and store in a cool place. Add vanilla as it tastes a bit sweet.

Don't forget to add butter to veg, oily dressings to salads, butter or oil to cauliflower rice, cream on puds or in coffee. And eat cheese for snacks - when I first went low carb I kept the 20g packs of cheese at eye height in my fridge to help with sweet snack cravings.

And you can avoid keto flu (ie symptoms experienced when dropping carbs) by starting low carb slowly.
For me that was a couple of days on 120g, then two weeks or so at 100g and then down to 85g.
I was lucky as my blood testing before and 2 hrs after meals showed that was low enough for me.
 
Bro stop with this paradigm. I’m not fat, I don’t need to snack because I’m fat, i need to snack because I can’t gain weight and it’s unhealthy
People are trying to help you here. I get it, it's a difficult diagnosis, but trust me as I'm speaking from personal experience here, getting a full blown type 2 diabetes diagnosis is harder.

I've seen you snap at forum members all day, people who have done nothing other than support me and many others. I wouldn't be in the position I'm in now, with blood glucose under control and no meds for diabetes, without them. You seem to have a real thing about worrying people think you're fat. Yep, we get it, you're not. Big round of applause. However, if you actually did some research, or just listened to Ian earlier, you'll realise that it's possible to be thin and type 2 diabetic. If you want to gain weight, listen to others who have given you good advice around raising calorific intake on low carb / keto. You don't need carbs to gain weight, you just need to eat significantly enough above your BMR.

So, here's some advice - you really have two choices here:

1) Listen to the advice, stop snapping at people who are trying to help, and you'll stand a chance of sorting out prediabetes without it turning into full blown diabetes.

2) Don't listen to the advice, follow your doctor's advice to the letter, and you don't have to worry about "paradigms" or people trying to help you.

Treat people with respect and you might get more back in return.
 
Instead of oats I make up a porridge mix with 2 heaped spoons of milled flaxseed to one of chia seeds and a little oatbran. Add more seeds and or chopped nuts plus cinnamon and a little salt (we need to add salt to our diet if avoiding over-processed foods).
Use 3 heaped dessert spoons with up to 200 MLS of hot water. I microwave mine for 2 minutes but any way you cook it is fine. Serve with double cream.
That's my main non-veggie fibre for the day.
Small amount of beans are ok.
I use small amounts of butternut squash, acorn squash, etc - just check the (net) carbs per 100g as some have more than others.
Keto chocolate bars, or make your own snack with grated dark chocolate plus seeds or nuts - melt the chocolate in a bowl placed into a larger bowl of just boiled water then add the nuts. put spoonfuls onto foil or parchment and leave to cool.
Alternatively, make nut butter balls - any nut butter mixed with coconut flour until firm enough to roll into balls. roll in a little more coconut flour and store in a cool place. Add vanilla as it tastes a bit sweet.

Don't forget to add butter to veg, oily dressings to salads, butter or oil to cauliflower rice, cream on puds or in coffee. And eat cheese for snacks - when I first went low carb I kept the 20g packs of cheese at eye height in my fridge to help with sweet snack cravings.

And you can avoid keto flu (ie symptoms experienced when dropping carbs) by starting low carb slowly.
For me that was a couple of days on 120g, then two weeks or so at 100g and then down to 85g.
I was lucky as my blood testing before and 2 hrs after meals showed that was low enough for me.
Ok a few issues here: I have a host of food intolerances which is gonna make this very tricky so bear with me. I'm not picking your suggestions apart and I'm not attacking you personally, I simply have food allergies, ok? :)

Food allergies: Nuts so that tanks most of my options here, gluten (so no wheat bran) I've also read that seeds and seed oils are bad because they leach nutrients from the gut so I would prefer to avoid them.
Is there a danger of eating too much fat? I don't mind eating pure coconut oil for example I'm just worried I might do damage to my arteries or something.

Today I bought some chicken that was on sale, cauliflower and cheese. I was gonna get bacon but all the ones I checked had sugar in the ingredients even tho the nutrition info said 0% sugar so it's sneaky.

What about dark chocolate? 90% or more?

Thanks.
 
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