Weight Loss and Diabetes

shellysexbomb

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That's r

That's right Diana 2 weeks, not cutting anything out completely, less carbs ,Flora probiotic spread instead of my beloved Butter. More fruit and veg , Yoghurt, Lo salt. I only have sugar in tea, I have tried almost every sweetener out there. I am lucky because I don't eat biscuits or sweets. Oh and Hovis seeded sensation loaf. Every other day I replace 1 meal with 2 pieces of fruit or even tinned fruit in juice, or about 5 dates + pumpkin seeds and nuts. Just not being so lazy with my diet.


If I ate that my BS would be through the ceiling. Just shows how different we all are :/
 

dolphinium

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I'm an odd one I have type 2 but have also got MS so I'm in a wheelchair. Am struggling with my weight never thought I'd admit that publicly but I'm overweight by hmm a lot. Try to exercise with help of Physio am on Metaformin (can't spell) but mess for MS don't help my weight. HELP anyone? Am new to this so bit nervous!!


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shellysexbomb

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I'm an odd one I have type 2 but have also got MS so I'm in a wheelchair. Am struggling with my weight never thought I'd admit that publicly but I'm overweight by hmm a lot. Try to exercise with help of Physio am on Metaformin (can't spell) but mess for MS don't help my weight. HELP anyone? Am new to this so bit nervous!!


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Try the low carb/high fat. Seems to work for the majority at A: Keeping BS down and B: Getting the weight off. Its hard at first withdrawing from carbs, but the results are worth it. Play around with different carbs and see what amount works for you. Good luck and keep us posted :D
 
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Syndie8

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Hi.
My name is Syndie. I've been a type 1 diabetic since 19 years now.

Even though I've gained a lot of weigh, I actually managed to loose it and keep it off.

I know that for a type 1 diabetes, losing weight is really hard and there there is no such 'diet' or 'exercise' routine in place for us to follow along with the proper guidance to insulin management.

Do you believe that if there was a weight loss program for type 1 diabetes, it would help you out?
I know everyone is different in terms of how much insulin each of us take, or how we live and where what activity we do.




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Opalshards

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:rolleyes: I weighed myself on May1st one month on from my fantastic one stone loss in just 2weeks in March. Just 6bls this month still I must keep on, at least I am going in the right direction. I am still 17st 1lb, only another 7or 8stone to go..OMG.
I recon By this time next year I should be a much healthier weight for my 5ft frame.
Holidays next week, I must stay sensible, at least I can still eat my beloved Bacon and I will take my low salt with me and leave it in the Hotel dining room. At least I can tell myself its only water retention. But even I don't believe that. I do love my salt.

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bjh55

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As in all things health related discuss your course of action with your doctor/nurse/ dietician before embarking on a diet. You may have other health conditions that have to be taken into account.

Losing weight for diabetics has to be thought of in terms of controlling your blood sugars as well as reducing your food intake.

Many of the ‘ready- made’ diets such as Weight Watchers, South Beach etc may look good in terms of losing weight but they often have high carb levels in their meals even though they say they are suitable for diabetics.

Carbohydrates are what affects blood sugar levels and, in diabetes we have an inability to process the carbs properly because of some sort of damage to the pancreas be it total beta cell destruction as in Type 1’s or insulin resistance/deficiency in Type 2’s.

With those with insulin resistance there is too much insulin in the body because the pancreas produces more and more insulin to try and cope with the ingested carbs turning into glucose.

Carbs = glucose= insulin= fat.

If you eat too many carbs this will convert to glucose. This then requires insulin to try and lower the levels of glucose in your blood, either naturally produced or injected insulin. An excess of insulin in your blood stream then gets converted to fat. If you can break this cycle by firstly reducing the carb intake to lower levels you will then find that you can reduce the quantity of insulin that you need, this in turn will lower your blood sugar levels and also have the beneficial effect of reducing/stopping any fat production.

This is a simplification of the complex metabolic process going on inside each and every one of us.

For each and every one of us however the processing of these carbs will be different. Some can tolerate certain types of carbs with regards to blood sugar control and some can’t. It is only by keeping a food diary and a record of your blood sugar levels before and after a meal that we can gradually learn to work with our food so that the food helps us not hurts us.

Some small tips.

1.Portion control. You may think that your portions are ‘healthy', for a week weigh everything out so that you get to know visually what a 30gm portion is (or whatever portion you are aiming at). Every month or so do this again as our eyes sometimes deceive us !!

2.Use a smaller sized plate. The plate looks full so you feel full as well.

3.Prepare as much of your food as possible yourself using fresh products that are as natural as possible. For instance fresh meat has little to no carbs whereas processed meat may have a lot of carbs.

4.Read the packets ! Look at the TOTAL carb content of the product this includes the sugars and gives you the proper carb value. Do not just look at sugars as this is misleading when you are diabetic.

5.Don’t beat yourself up if the weight loss stalls, it happens, keep to the diet and it will probably start again. Try increasing exercise if you are able, this increases metabolism and gets weight loss going again.

6.Don’t beat yourself up if you fall off the wagon now and again. We are all human and all do it now and again. You are changing your lifestyle. It takes time.

I used this method and lost three stone. This is just my experience.
 

bjh55

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Diet only
As in all things health related discuss your course of action with your doctor/nurse/ dietician before embarking on a diet. You may have other health conditions that have to be taken into account.

Losing weight for diabetics has to be thought of in terms of controlling your blood sugars as well as reducing your food intake.

Many of the ‘ready- made’ diets such as Weight Watchers, South Beach etc may look good in terms of losing weight but they often have high carb levels in their meals even though they say they are suitable for diabetics.

Carbohydrates are what affects blood sugar levels and, in diabetes we have an inability to process the carbs properly because of some sort of damage to the pancreas be it total beta cell destruction as in Type 1’s or insulin resistance/deficiency in Type 2’s.

With those with insulin resistance there is too much insulin in the body because the pancreas produces more and more insulin to try and cope with the ingested carbs turning into glucose.

Carbs = glucose= insulin= fat.

If you eat too many carbs this will convert to glucose. This then requires insulin to try and lower the levels of glucose in your blood, either naturally produced or injected insulin. An excess of insulin in your blood stream then gets converted to fat. If you can break this cycle by firstly reducing the carb intake to lower levels you will then find that you can reduce the quantity of insulin that you need, this in turn will lower your blood sugar levels and also have the beneficial effect of reducing/stopping any fat production.

This is a simplification of the complex metabolic process going on inside each and every one of us.

For each and every one of us however the processing of these carbs will be different. Some can tolerate certain types of carbs with regards to blood sugar control and some can’t. It is only by keeping a food diary and a record of your blood sugar levels before and after a meal that we can gradually learn to work with our food so that the food helps us not hurts us.

Some small tips.

1.Portion control. You may think that your portions are ‘healthy', for a week weigh everything out so that you get to know visually what a 30gm portion is (or whatever portion you are aiming at). Every month or so do this again as our eyes sometimes deceive us !!

2.Use a smaller sized plate. The plate looks full so you feel full as well.

3.Prepare as much of your food as possible yourself using fresh products that are as natural as possible. For instance fresh meat has little to no carbs whereas processed meat may have a lot of carbs.

4.Read the packets ! Look at the TOTAL carb content of the product this includes the sugars and gives you the proper carb value. Do not just look at sugars as this is misleading when you are diabetic.

5.Don’t beat yourself up if the weight loss stalls, it happens, keep to the diet and it will probably start again. Try increasing exercise if you are able, this increases metabolism and gets weight loss going again.

6.Don’t beat yourself up if you fall off the wagon now and again. We are all human and all do it now and again. You are changing your lifestyle. It takes time.

I used this method and lost three stone. This is just my experience.
 

bjh55

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Diet only
I'm 58 and have been diabetic for around 7 years
During that time I have struggled to keep my blood sugar levels down. They were consistently around 10 to 14. I am on 4 x 500mg Bolamyn (slow release Metformin) a day. I felt good so i wasn't unduly worried - how stupid ?? It was only when I was diagnosed with having a fatty liver that I thought I ought to start taking this seriously - I saw a diabetic specialist at our doctors surgery and she prescribed Forxiga but said "you've got to lose the blubber Barbara"

At 11 st 8 lbs I didn't consider myself to be hugely at risk so I kept putting off making the effort

So - I decided the only way to lose weight and keep it off was to do it slowly and sensibly

I set myself a target of 2 lbs a week and losing a total of 20 lbs in 10 weeks (to coincide with my next visit to see the specialist)

I got family friends and work colleagues to sponsor me for The Rainbow Centre in Fareham who help people with cerebral palsy

If I lose all the weight I think I will be donating about £800 to them

The thing is if I don't lose the weight I will be letting down a charity which had been in danger of having to close its doors

So far I am on target because I have used M&S Fuller Longer meals for dinner each evening. I don't knowhow much I weigh at the moment because one on my work colleagues weighs me once a fortnight and I don't look - he jays treks me whether I am on target or whether I need to step it up a gear

The fleet longer range are usually ready in minutes which means I don't pick on anything while I am starving hungry and waiting for my dinner to cook. My personal opinion is that you HAVE to count how many calories are in your food as well because that helps you make the decision about how you can best use your calories allowance. I am positive that my own problem was portion control and that is why i weigh my food to start with to see exactly what I am having in terms of calories - tog don't have to keep on weighing it once you know how calorific your normal portion size is

So
Breakfast = 2 x shredded wheat with ss milk = about 300 calories Inc a mug of tea

11 am large apple = about 65 calories

Lunch = 4 Ryvita with light Philadelphia and sliced tomato = 200 calories. Followed by fruit salad and sugar free jelly = about 100 calories and feels like a proper pudding!!

Total so far about 665 calories

Dinner = fuller longer meal = about 400 calories

I know they can be expensive but no more than weight watchers meals or weekly payments to slimming world or weight loss clubs

This leaves about 200 calories for drinks and the odd square of 90% chocolate

A friend said calories counting is no good but my point is that if you know how many calories are in the meal you have it can help you make the judgement about what to eat

So at lunch time I can either have the Ryvita or a Double Decker bar - which is actually 250 calories most of which are fat and sugar

Diets are rubbish because most people cannot sustain Atkins, 5-2 etc for a prolonged period and so they just put the weight back on when they come off the diet

I suffer from osteoarthritis and I cannot seem but walking is very good
I am told that a brisk walk after eating helps prevent lipids getting into your system

So that's my personal story - I hope it helps someone
 
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sanguine

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Hi Barbara

Good luck with your weight loss programme and sponsorship for a worthwhile charity.

You do also need to look at bringing your BG levels down as well as counting calories I think, and I wonder if your carb intake is a bit on the high side. I don't know what's in the M&S Fuller Longer meals, but bread, cereal, potatoes, pasta, rice etc are anathema to many on here and not conducive to long term control of blood glucose levels.
 

bjh55

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Hi Barbara

Good luck with your weight loss programme and sponsorship for a worthwhile charity.

You do also need to look at bringing your BG levels down as well as counting calories I think, and I wonder if your carb intake is a bit on the high side. I don't know what's in the M&S Fuller Longer meals, but bread, cereal, potatoes, pasta, rice etc are anathema to many on here and not conducive to long term control of blood glucose levels.
 

bjh55

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Well I do look at all the nutritional information as well as calories and for instance

Roasted duck and pork paparedelle is 332 calories
8.4 % carb 2.6% sugar 1.5% fat of which 0.5 saturated

Slow cooked venison with red wine and onion sauce and parsnip mash is 292 calories
7.2 carb 2.8 sugar 1.0 fat 0.3 sat

And roast pork loin with apple and cider sauce with mash and savoy cabbage is 367 calories
7.6 carbs 2.6 sugars 3.1 fat 1.5 sat

I'm not an expert but I THINK that these are all ok

For me it's definitely down to portion control and this is where these meals help

At the end of them I think I'm still hungry but 30 minutes later i feel quite satisfied

Its all down to personal preference tally but this method works for me
I work long hours and my husband is a fussy Eater - do I find this works for us because I can just cook him what he will eat and bung mine in the microwave
Its not a long term solution - just a 10 week plan and then I will have to think about what next !!
 
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For anyone who would like to chat about Diabetes and weight, this week's #gbdoc tweet chat is on the topic of diabetes and weight. Wednesday evening 9pm. www.gbdoc.co.uk :)
 

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I was dignosed in March and I attended the Education programme who showed us the healthy eating plate which consisted of the bulk of your meals being made up of fruit and veg and slow release carbs ie. New potatos, wholegrain bread, brown rice and whole wheat pasta, with moderate protein ie meat and the rest dairy and fat. I am getting very confused about carbs !!!!

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jack412

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I'm an odd one I have type 2 but have also got MS so I'm in a wheelchair. Am struggling with my weight never thought I'd admit that publicly but I'm overweight by hmm a lot. Try to exercise with help of Physio am on Metaformin (can't spell) but mess for MS don't help my weight. HELP anyone? Am new to this so bit nervous!!


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g'day, the first one is always the hardest....I hope to see you around the forum.
use the search function and read a lot of the old topics here too, there is a lot of info in them
have you had your Vit D checked? the right level is suppose to help MS
http://www.dietdoctor.com/category/health-problems/ms

lchf is suppose to help MS too, eat normal amount protein
https://www.google.com.au/#q=lchf ms

weight
http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf

the first week is the worse, when it's under control, you can add some more carbs
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarbliving/a/Food-Cravings.htm
 
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seaspray1998

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If you have Ms then do pilates, that's the best form of exercise for yr condition.

There are plenty of free you tube vids.

Do you suffer from stiffness?
 

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Weight wise the diabetic nurse weighed me at the review this morning and ive lost 3kg since the last review of August 14th 2014.Im well pleased with that.
 

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If you've have diabetes, Create a safe diabetes weight loss plan with the help of experts.If you're overweight and have type 2 diabetes, improves your health, and helps you feel better.
 
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johnboy412000

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Just jumped on my scales and it showed as 87KG so thats another 2kg gone since seeing the diabetic nurse 11th September 2014.Hopefully loose some more by the time i see her again 8th October.So since 14th August ive lost 5kg or 11lbs BS levels are looking good also at average of 6.Blood test next week for Hba1C hopefully ill be able to update that in my signature.:) Feeling good about my change of diet etc.Once you get the hang of it diabetes is fairly easy to handle knowing what foods to eat and what to avoid etc makes a real difference :)
 
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seaspray1998

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I weighed 226lbs in April 2010 and went on a calorie controlled diet but without any regard to the carbs intake. I lost app. 30lb that year up to the Xmas when I took a short break resuming again in the middle of Jan 2011. Unfortunately my weight stalled and even though I put my cals down from 1200 per day to 1000 and then again to 800 per day for a few weeks I could not get it to shift.. I might lose a pound or two one week and then it would go back on again.
At the beginning of this year I decided to embark on a low carb diet which I did with great apprehension as I do love my bread. I am delighted to say that I have lost about another 14lbs and am now at 186lbs.. slow 'tis true but never-the-less it's moving!
I now find that my Db is at a very good level and in fact the nurse was delighted with my last test report... YAY!
At 79 I am still persevering with my diet and hope to get to my goal 0f 154lbs which tbh at only 4'11" is still quite overweight but then I have never ever been less than 140lbs even as a teenager.


At 79 I am VERY impressed by both you even bothering to lose weight, and embracing modern technology.

Kudos to you!

Ania