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Type 2's: What was your fasting blood glucose in a morning?

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NoCrbs4Me said:
Are you saying he is calling me a coward for not eating lots of carbs?
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No. I do not think that is what he is saying. In fact I do not think he is responding to your point about carbs at all. I think he is just making lighthearted play of words on "this will kill me" phrase.

To me his comment does not sound confrontational rather more philosophical. I would not read too much into it.

But he can explain himself.
 
NoCrbs4Me said:
Are you saying he is calling me a coward for not eating lots of carbs?
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Actually, it's worth it's own post.

Why on earth would I do that?
Eating carbs isn't a challenge.

I repeatedly have said I eat carbs because of the lifestyle I choose to have, and balance the carbs against exercise, against higher BG then some would maybe like, against the sports I don't want to quit doing, against controlling what I eat, and a host of other pros and cons.

Controlling diabetes isn't a game.
It's not a p**sing contest over the lowest numbers, equally it's not a p**sing contest over the highest amount of carbs.
It's not a fight with the NHS.

It's about what we do to get the best quality of life, for the time we're here.
I have my way to do that for me, you have yours.

But one thing I do accept is, one day, I will die, and I'm good with that.
 
pavlosn said:
No. I do not think that is what he is saying. In fact I do not think he is responding to your point about carbs at all. I think he is just making lighthearted play of words on "this will kill me" phrase.

To me his comment does not sound confrontational rather more philosophical. I would not read too much into it.

But he can explain himself.
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I think you got the drift Pavlos,.

Just as a side where are you in Greece?
 
douglas99 said:
Actually, it's worth it's own post.

Why on earth would I do that?
Eating carbs isn't a challenge.

I repeatedly have said I eat carbs because of the lifestyle I choose to have, and balance the carbs against exercise, against higher BG then some would maybe like, against the sports I don't want to quit doing, against controlling what I eat, and a host of other pros and cons.

Controlling diabetes isn't a game.
It's not a p**sing contest over the lowest numbers, equally it's not a p**sing contest over the highest amount of carbs.
It's not a fight with the NHS.

It's about what we do to get the best quality of life, for the time we're here.
I have my way to do that for me, you have yours.

But one thing I do accept is, one day, I will die, and I'm good with that.
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Hi Douglas, I'm lost on this one where did all this come from?
 
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I guess what you are saying is that we should not let our fear of dying stop us from living.

Which of course should not be misinterpreted as saying that we should ignore our disease or abandon what we need to do to control it and stay alive, but rather that we should not let it take over our lives to the point that we forget what makes our lives worth living for.
 
daddys1 said:
Hi Douglas, I'm lost on this one where did all this come from?
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I have to be honest, I think it's because I'm basically **** with words.
I just read Pavosln's post above, and somehow he seems to have expressed exactly what I meant, with a crystal like clarity, which I can somehow seem to completely obscure in the heat of the moment.

'No. I do not think that is what he is saying. In fact I do not think he is responding to your point about carbs at all. I think he is just making lighthearted play of words on "this will kill me" phrase.

To me his comment does not sound confrontational rather more philosophical. I would not read too much into it.

But he can explain himself.'

Many a time I would have needed him pre pub or dockside, and possibly the outcome would have been less painful all round.
He truly is a man of few, but completely correct words, and I do hope we all read the post he has so correctly expressed, and let the matter end here.
 
pavlosn said:
@douglas99

I guess what you are saying is that we should not let our fear of dying stop us from living.

Which of course should not be misinterpreted as saying that we should ignore our disease or abandon what we need to do to control it and stay alive, but rather that we should not let it take over our lives to the point that we forget what makes our lives worth living for.
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Once again, let us simply read this, and agree we are all here to help each other, and listen to someone who can manage to articulate what I do actually mean.
 
Anyway, I still plan to ask my diabetic nurse (well, she's not diabetic, just has diabetic patients) why she is recommending a diet (>45% calories from carbs) that will send most of us type 2s, except @douglas99, to an early grave, or at least to injecting insulin.
 
NoCrbs4Me said:
Anyway, I still plan to ask my diabetic nurse (well, she's not diabetic, just has diabetic patients) why she is recommending a diet (>45% calories from carbs) that will send most of us type 2s, except @douglas99, to an early grave, or at least to injecting insulin.
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I couldn't speak for any other T2's, or even most of them.
I can only tell you my story.
And, I know it's not a fasting level,but my bedtime is 5.8, so I'm good with that now.
 
daddys1 said:
Sorry Pavlos, thought Greece, apologies.

It's just we have sailed on Holiday in the South & North Ionian off the coast of Greece. But never been to Cyprus will have to go sometime.
Neil
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I need to go and dive there, I have seen there are some good sites, maybe a year or two.
 
douglas99 said:
Once again, let us simply read this, and agree we are all here to help each other, and listen to someone who can manage to articulate what I do actually mean.
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Pleased you have settled down now Douglas ( I have read all you story I'm impressed 'Creep') I think you were very articulate, you got all the expletives in the right place I think most would have known what you meant.
Neil
PS
Just seen your post re; Pavlos, some bits round the Ionion are quite deep but all very interesting. Dolphin, Turtles & Sun Fish and also Flying fish
 
douglas99 said:
I couldn't speak for any other T2's, or even most of them.
I can only tell you my story.
And, I know it's not a fasting level,but my bedtime is 5.8, so I'm good with that now.
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Yes It is and should be your OWN unique story. We are all ultimately on the same side trying to make it through and sharing our experiences and thoughts. I'm a 5.5 tonight and GOOD NIGHT ALL!!
 
Sable_Jan said:
Glad to hear you are off the antibiotics. Good numbers seeing as you are still not fully well yet. Take care, Jan
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Thanks Jan hope your well. I go back to Doctors on Wed for check up and hbac1 test. So more blood tests (wish they would leave me some) had 5 blood test in 4 weeks. Turning into a pin cushion.:D

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5.9 for me on waking and 8.4 after one hour ... so MORE pavement punishment. It'll be back down to 7ish in about 20 minutes

I seriously think this is just me and my mornings

Last nite it was 5s before, 1 hour and 2 hours after eating.
 
daddys1 said:
Sorry Pavlos, thought Greece, apologies.

It's just we have sailed on Holiday in the South & North Ionian off the coast of Greece. But never been to Cyprus will have to go sometime.
Neil
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No problem.

The Ionian is very beautiful. Been to Corfu and Zante and had a very nice time there in the past. Went a bit further north this year to the Adriatic coast in Croatia. Even went sailing for a day but that was on a hired boat with a captain. Must be great to sail yourself. Yet another of those things I must get round to learning how to do.

Pavlos


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