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Scotfalconer

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Just been diagnosed with T2 diabetes,find it all a bit of a minefield to be honest, was advised to purchase a SD codefree meter, which I did.
It arrived the other day,still trying to get my head round that and what I should and shouldn’t eat.
Joined another UK forum last week but was advised to join this one as it could provide me with lot more information due to the high membership numbers.
Appreciate any advise you guys can provide to help me combat T2.
Thanks
 
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bulkbiker

BANNED
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19,575
Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Diet only
Hi and welcome
I'll tag in @daisy1 for the intro pack.

Lots of us have reduced our carbohydrate content significantly and have thus reduced our blood glucose numbers.
So no bread, cakes, pasta, root veg or very sweet fruit.
This stuff gets replaced by Meat, fish, eggs, dairy , green veg all freshly prepared from scratch. Food becomes a pleasure again and not something that comes out of a packet.
Basically that's it.
If you'd like to share your HbA1c diagnosis number we may be able to tweak those dietary changes a bit but for me its simple.. reduce carbs as much as possible and eat more protein and fat.
 

Bluetit1802

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Hi and welcome,

Yes, it can be a mine field, but now you have a meter you can work through the mine field and come out the other side.

Use the meter to test immediately before you eat.
Test again 2 hours after first bite
If the difference is more than 2mmol/l there were too many carbs in that meal for your body to cope with.
2mmol/l is the maximum the rise should be. It is preferable if it is a lot less.
Keep a food diary that includes portion sizes and record your blood sugar levels alongside.
Doing this means you can look for patterns that will help you decide which foods are your personal danger foods. (we all have different ones)
Do this with every meal until you know which foods are causing your levels to rise. You have the choice of eliminating some foods completely, or reducing the portion sizes until you no longer see a rise.

This is called eating to your meter.
 

Rachox

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I reversed my Type 2
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Hi Scot, @bulkbiker and @Bluetit1802 have covered the basics to get you started, so I just popped in to say welcome!
You’ve joined the best little corner of the internet to kick Type 2 into submission! Ask anything that occurs to you, there’ll always be someone to help you :)
 

Scotfalconer

Member
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Hi and welcome
I'll tag in @daisy1 for the intro pack.

Lots of us have reduced our carbohydrate content significantly and have thus reduced our blood glucose numbers.
So no bread, cakes, pasta, root veg or very sweet fruit.
This stuff gets replaced by Meat, fish, eggs, dairy , green veg all freshly prepared from scratch. Food becomes a pleasure again and not something that comes out of a packet.
Basically that's it.
If you'd like to share your HbA1c diagnosis number we may be able to tweak those dietary changes a bit but for me its simple.. reduce carbs as much as possible and eat more protein and fat.


Thank you
 
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Scotfalconer

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Hi and welcome,

Yes, it can be a mine field, but now you have a meter you can work through the mine field and come out the other side.

Use the meter to test immediately before you eat.
Test again 2 hours after first bite
If the difference is more than 2mmol/l there were too many carbs in that meal for your body to cope with.
2mmol/l is the maximum the rise should be. It is preferable if it is a lot less.
Keep a food diary that includes portion sizes and record your blood sugar levels alongside.
Doing this means you can look for patterns that will help you decide which foods are your personal danger foods. (we all have different ones)
Do this with every meal until you know which foods are causing your levels to rise. You have the choice of eliminating some foods completely, or reducing the portion sizes until you no longer see a rise.

This is called eating to your meter.
 
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Scotfalconer

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Hi and welcome,

Yes, it can be a mine field, but now you have a meter you can work through the mine field and come out the other side.

Use the meter to test immediately before you eat.
Test again 2 hours after first bite
If the difference is more than 2mmol/l there were too many carbs in that meal for your body to cope with.
2mmol/l is the maximum the rise should be. It is preferable if it is a lot less.
Keep a food diary that includes portion sizes and record your blood sugar levels alongside.
Doing this means you can look for patterns that will help you decide which foods are your personal danger foods. (we all have different ones)
Do this with every meal until you know which foods are causing your levels to rise. You have the choice of eliminating some foods completely, or reducing the portion sizes until you no longer see a rise.

This is called eating to your meter.
 
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Prem51

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Welcome to the forum @Scotfalconer. It's difficult to take in everything immediately, but you will get to grips with this condition. You can control it. Have a read round the threads and ask any questions you want to. The people on here are friendly and supportive.
 

Gardengnome

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Messages
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Type of diabetes
Don't have diabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Dislikes
going to a gym
Just been diagnosed with T2 diabetes,find it all a bit of a minefield to be honest, was advised to purchase a SD codefree meter, which I did.
It arrived the other day,still trying to get my head round that and what I should and shouldn’t eat.
Joined another UK forum last week but was advised to join this one as it could provide me with lot more information due to the high membership numbers.
Appreciate any advise you guys can provide to help me combat T2.
Thanks


You've come to the right spot. Ask as many questions as you like and you will get the answers here.:)
 

zauberflote

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Prediabetes
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okra. Cigarette smoke, old, new, and permeating a room, wafting from a balcony, etc etc. That I have so many chronic diseases. That I take so very many meds. Being cold. Anything too loud, but specifically non-classical music and the television.
Welcome @Scotfalconer ! I am quite new myself and have found this “corner of the internet” to be full to overflowing with friendly, informed folks.
I am trying to dodge a T2D diagnosis (which runs in the family): in the US it takes 2 A1c’s of 6.5 or higher and you’re labeled for life. I had the first 6.5 in August. Primary care dr gave me a food cheat sheet which looks nothing like diets here nor my own current diet. 2 pieces of fruit a day? Not going to help my personal self! He also prescribed me a $117 meter, clearly under the influence of those pesky sales people who are all over in US healthcare system, pushing drugs and durable equipment. ‘Scuse my soapbox rant!
I bought a store brand meter, and the longer I’m on here the more I understand how to use it wisely.
Lest we forget fats, I use lots of olive oil and eat lots of nuts, nut butters, and avocado. And cream in my coffee! Yum.
I have an app for tracking BG which helpfully tells you the average of all your input numbers, and from that estimates (ESTIMATES) your A1c, using a tool the doctors use . It can only work with the numbers it’s given, so the more readings I give it, the better guess I have as to what my February labs may look like.
Experimentation with exercise is useful to me, and I’m working on, when is the best time of day to do what exercising. It’s all a work in progress!
 

jjraak

Expert
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7,500
Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Tablets (oral)
Just been diagnosed with T2 diabetes,find it all a bit of a minefield to be honest, was advised to purchase a SD codefree meter, which I did.

Hi @Scotfalconer

All the above advice spot on,
But you don't need to just take peoples word for things.

Take a look around the forum, lots of people will reinforce those messages of what to eat.

It does seem a minefield,

I came on board in october, and immediately started seeing benefits
and the members on here have really helped me steady myself.

Life seems a lot more sorted, and the food options are a lot more 'Do-able' then i first thought.

I also went codefree..it will give you the info you need to make BETTER choices in the days and weeks ahead.

( Take you first reading and head on into one of the "My FBG (fasting Blood Glucose ) to get better acquainted with members
it's something i hope you'll do anyway, and who else is going to understand the importance of the numbers or be interested.;)...will help you understand how much we all come to rely on that figure to judge and juggle our diets.)
 
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JoKalsbeek

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Type of diabetes
I reversed my Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Just been diagnosed with T2 diabetes,find it all a bit of a minefield to be honest, was advised to purchase a SD codefree meter, which I did.
It arrived the other day,still trying to get my head round that and what I should and shouldn’t eat.
Joined another UK forum last week but was advised to join this one as it could provide me with lot more information due to the high membership numbers.
Appreciate any advise you guys can provide to help me combat T2.
Thanks
You've already gotten loads of excellent advice on your meter, diet and whatnot, so i'll just say "Hello!".

Hello!
Any questions, just toss 'em out there and we'll do what we can. :)
Jo
 

daisy1

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@Scotfalconer
Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and useful.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

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