Reactive Hypoglycaemia

[catherinecherub]

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/thr...nsultant-update-2015.70459/page-3#post-853310

 

[AndBreathe]

Hey,
I'm new to this forum so please forgive my ignorance. I do not have diabetes that I am aware of but numerous people in my family have Type 2 Diabetes. I have shaking spells which I believe to be a result of poor eating habits - not eating much at all or just insubstantial foods. I tested my blood sugar today during one of these spells and was shocked to see that my blood glucose was 1.2mmol/L. I can't find much info on hypoglycaemia except that it is below 4mmol/L and it's symptoms. Would love anyone to point me towards some articles/papers and would love to know whether blood sugar can get that low just from not eating right for a day?

Thanks in advance

1.2 does seem low. I agree with the others that you should see your Doc, but if, as you state you are not eating enough or eating insubstantial foods, then you have to help yourself our by eating be sensibly. Whether or not you have any defective sugar management issues, eating sensibly is always going to be at the centre of any changes you need to make.

 

[Lamont D]

1.2 does seem low. I agree with the others that you should see your Doc, but if, as you state you are not eating enough or eating insubstantial foods, then you have to help yourself our by eating be sensibly. Whether or not you have any defective sugar management issues, eating sensibly is always going to be at the centre of any changes you need to make.

Hi @AndBreathe

Hi, where did d this post come from?

Hypoglycaemia is not restricted to diabetics.
If you have blood glucose problems, you have to have good management and be in control.
There is plenty of info on Wikipedia and other medical webpages.
If your not sure and need to ask a question, please do.

 

[AndBreathe]

Hi @AndBreathe

Hi, where did d this post come from?

Hypoglycaemia is not restricted to diabetics.
If you have blood glucose problems, you have to have good management and be in control.
There is plenty of info on Wikipedia and other medical webpages.
If your not sure and need to ask a question, please do.

As you can see, I was replying to a post. I have no idea what has transpired.

 

[Lamont D]

As you can see, I was replying to a post. I have no idea what has transpired.

Ok. @catherinecherub moved a post before, maybe, some thing similar happened.

 

[Jey]

Hi all i followed u'r writhing. It's tuff to know and feel not to be taken serious from Docs and Specialists! Thank god there still hope to find the right one. Some of you's have, for the ones who don't hopefully soon. After having for a while low blood sugar and episodes I'm now for 3 months the opposit from 5 up. Have some mornings a reading of 6.1/6.4 fasting, apparently it is still normal. Tested my body and gave a lot of carbs had sometimes readings of 8.8/ 10.6. Had eczema on hands after legs after my face swell up and my neck! Got a blood test done, everything was normal only my vitamin D was too low.( only knew that because I collected the print out of the test, my GP wouldn't told me) taking vitamin D drops and hope that will help with things. Still haven't got an appointment by a endo but not sure I really need a endo! Xxx

 

[Lamont D]

Hi @Jey

It's good that you are not having the lows, hopefully you can carry on this way, at least you have had the control.
Are you low carbing to prevent the hypers?

Wish you well.

Keep in touch.

 

[catherinecherub]

Ok. @catherinecherub moved a post before, maybe, some thing similar happened.

Confusing. @nosher8355

You have already replied to the post in question. (Page 6)

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/reactive-hypoglycaemia.71083/page-6#post-858261

 

[Lamont D]

Confusing. @nosher8355

You have already replied to the post in question. (Page 6)

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/reactive-hypoglycaemia.71083/page-6#post-858261

Doh!

 

[Jey]

Hi nosher8355 yes i do try to eat low carb as good as possible. Some Days it doesn't work as well. Thank to us I learned a lot. I will keep in touch and follow the forum. Wish u well too and all the best

 

[Lamont D]

Keep in touch, keep well, jey

Best wishes.

 

[MrBigglesworth]

Hi again,

Diagnosed with RH
Trying the LCHF Diet

I've been eating almost no carbs for the last two days and wanted to check that the way I'm feeling is expected. Basically I am very low in energy right now, extremely thirsty (due to all the fat I'm consuming I guess) and weirdly, have had palpitations for the last 18 hours or so. Ah... One thing to mention is that on the first day of the diet I also had to give a pint of blood ( treatment for heamochromatosis ) but I had hoped that wouldn't have had this effect. I had tried the diet previously for two days and had no issue with palpitations. I'm wondering if I am to expect to feel bad before good on this diet? Also How long until I start feeling the benefits?

 

[andcol]

sounds like you need to drink more water and increase your intake of salt. Your body needs more salt when on low carb. Think this all falls into the category of carb flu. Do a search for it.

 

[Lamont D]

Hi again,

Diagnosed with RH
Trying the LCHF Diet

I've been eating almost no carbs for the last two days and wanted to check that the way I'm feeling is expected. Basically I am very low in energy right now, extremely thirsty (due to all the fat I'm consuming I guess) and weirdly, have had palpitations for the last 18 hours or so. Ah... One thing to mention is that on the first day of the diet I also had to give a pint of blood ( treatment for heamochromatosis ) but I had hoped that wouldn't have had this effect. I had tried the diet previously for two days and had no issue with palpitations. I'm wondering if I am to expect to feel bad before good on this diet? Also How long until I start feeling the benefits?

Hi @MrBigglesworth

I think as Andrew has said a touch of carb flu.
It usual takes a couple of weeks to see the benefits, but your energy levels will be better.
All my symptoms disappeared within a month or so, just be patient. This is a long term lifestyle change.
Do you feel a little relief from diagnosis?
Has your endocrinologist said which type you have?

 

[MrBigglesworth]

Hi and thanks for the comments.

I dont know what type it is yet she has simply said "you have RH".
Yep its a great relief to have a possible solution now ive been diagnosed.
As long as my current symptoms are simply due to adjusting then I will gladly suffer them. I just wanted to know that this is usual and it looks like it is so I'm happy

Also, am I ok to eat pistachio and cashew nuts? They are my nuts of choice but I've noticed their carb content is quite High!

Thanks guys!

 

[Lamont D]

Hi and thanks for the comments.

I dont know what type it is yet she has simply said "you have RH".
Yep its a great relief to have a possible solution now ive been diagnosed.
As long as my current symptoms are simply due to adjusting then I will gladly suffer them. I just wanted to know that this is usual and it looks like it is so I'm happy

Also, am I ok to eat pistachio and cashew nuts? They are my nuts of choice but I've noticed their carb content is quite High!

Thanks guys!

Glad for you! It is a mindset, that now I know, what do I have to do?

Not sure on nuts, but a couple shouldn't be a problem. You will have to test! I suppose it could be one of your small meals in between others.

Now you will have to start testing! Be in control and until you feel a lot better in yourself, try stuff that may be slightly risky, but still low carb. Treat it as an experiment and get thinking about what you want to eat and how you shop.

The low carb forum helped me greatly, even have some treats!

Did you mention the drug that is helping me so much?

 

[MrBigglesworth]

Great, I'll check out the low carb forum. Yes I think the drug was sitagliptin. I'll probably give it a bit of time before requesting the drug from my GP just to see how I get on.

 

[Lamont D]

Just to show you what my daily diet is.

Breakfast
Full fat yoghurt, a handful of berries, black tea.

Mid morning
Half a small apple, black tea.

Lunch
Gammon, eggs, mushrooms, toms, black pudding, black tea

Mid afternoon
Small piece of fruit, it varies, black tea. Or cup of homemade soup.

Tea
Chicken curry (homemade), salad, diet coke.

Supper
Yoghurt, strawberries, 85% dark chocolate.


I make a lot of salads, with protein for work!
I eat a slice of Bergen bread with meat or salad!
I eat about a dozen or more eggs a week, I love omelette!
I mainly eat, pork, chicken, ham!
I can have pulses, but it depends which ones,
I eat a lot of above ground veg especially in salads, baby leaf or even spinach!!!
Some times I just eat meat, for a meal, depending on how hungry I am!

I don't do dairy, never been able to!
But butter and full fat cream is good way to get your fat, instead of milk in your tea or coffee.
That's one thing you will notice, the craving for food should go.

Hope this helps

 

[Brunneria]

Hi,

Glad you have something definite to go on.

I totally agree with the suggestions to drink more and increase the salt.
Suggest you do it fairly systematically, if you are getting palpitations.

The rule I go by (having spent some time reading all those 'are you getting enough water?' Websites, is to aim for 1 litre per 5 stone of body weight, a day. Try that, and then adjust up, if necessary. There are also websites giving you a scale of urine colours (I kid you not!) which let you see how dehydrated you are. Most of us don't drink enough, and low carbers need to drink more.

Regarding the salt. The current govt guidelines are rather unhelpful. New evidence on salt shows that cutting back is as harmful as the claims that too much used to be. American guidance is currently being rewritten, so it will probably take another 10 yrs for the UK to catch up! When we low carb, we cut out foods like bread, rice and potato - which are usually highly salted. So we automatically cut salt when we low carb.

LC experts like Voleck and Phinney suggest supplementing with at least 1.5g salt a day to make up the deficit (on or in food, and as a cup of broth). Some low carbers do get cramps, palpitations or muscle weakness (esp after sweating, exercise or hot weather), and benefit from more, including supplementing with potassium and magnesium. You can read the symptoms of pot and mag deficiency on Google, and it reads like a list of Carb Flu symptoms!

I take a rather casual approach. I drink a mug of knorr stock (or bovril) as a hot drink once a day, scatter salt on food if I feel like it, and have magnesium and potassium supplements in case the weather turns hot. As a new LC, you may find any or all of those helpful.

 

[Brunneria]

Regarding your eating, @nosher8355 and I take a very different approach.
But we both eat very low carb!

He flourishes on little-and-often, as shown by his post.
I prefer 2 or 3 meals a day and rarely snack. All that constant nibbling does my head in - as well as all that washing up!

So today's food for me (a Saturday, when I am both busy and active):
A good breakfast of bacon, egg and sausage, plus a coffee with cream
No lunch
Chicken curry, homemade, with chicken thighs, aubergines, tomatoes, courgettes, garlic, spices, coconut cream and spinach. Maybe a homemade onion bhaji, and with cauliflower rice. Maybe berries and cream for pud.

I'm not telling you this to confuse you, but rather to let you know that the key thing is low carb, the size and frequency of your meals - your own body will tell you its preferences.