NewdestinyX
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This comment was made in the 'poll thread' about this diet and as I thought about it my, 'pontification' about the topic, is more appropriate in 'this thread' than there.. So I'll respond here:
I know MANY non diabetics who eat the 'normal 300g of carbs a day or higher diet', are NOT athletes, but stay 'fit' and they feel AMAZINGLY healthy - even eating 'strawberries & cream' once a day. Feeling 'good', a very subjective notion to begin with, is mostly about proper body systems balance (BG level control and other systems in homeostasis) and light to heavy activity and getting good vitamins and minerals -- leading as stress free a life as possible -- AND LASTLY, but ALSO importantly - a 'good healthy' diet. (For the record I do NOT believe in Extreme lo carb diets of <50g of carbs a day as a mainstay for controlling BG levels. It's worked for me for 'dieting purposes only - and though it CAN work VERY effectively for MANY to control D, it is not the 'most healthy' in my research). Reducing and/or ELIMINATING 'processed carbs' IS a MUST - but just for GENERAL health purposes and not specifically for D control. We are also eating less of and afraid too much of 'fats' in modern society. From comparing LOTS of research the 'healthiest' ratio is not believed to be: 25% carbs, 30% protein, 50% good fats and some saturated fats too. Many D's will prefer to go more like 10, 30, 60 and I respect the decision but don't recommend it to newbies. I never felt well on that kind of diet even after giving it a long time.
That's my '2 years of educating myself' conviction. Others feel/conclude differently. I respect that.
As for me - I'm moderate carbing, don't deprive myself of anything but the harsh sugarey things and I even have them occasionally. I've lost 65 lbs in 2 years (the long healthy way to lose lots of weight from all I've read and my docs tell me) and I'll compare my monthly BG averages and A1c with any ardent ultra lo carber or lo calorie person anywhere. There are many ways to get to a goal. The important thing is 'making one' and staying on a path toward it.
Back to this topic.. This diet is still intriguing to me and I may consider it. I just don't know if I've burnt off enough of my pancreas and liver fat doing things my way. That's the intriguing part. It seems like once you do that.. Then it won't build back up that fast and when I return to 'my method' I shouldn't regain the fat/pancreas fat. At least that's how it seems to me.
From my experience and talking to many folks - MOST - people feel very 'sick' through the induction period of very lo carb diets. So much so it's called the 'induction flu'. I never had a sense of well being even after 6 weeks and it didn't control my blood sugars (as promised by many well meaning people on these forums) and I only lost 15 pounds (that was nice) and worst of all, I didn't have enough exercise to work out vigorously. The the body 'CAN" use fat as energy and 'does' - it's a 'less efficient' source of energy than are carbs. The body has to work much harder to convert the fat in storage to energy. This is why you don't always feel like you have enough energy. NOW - the kicker is - after a while the BODY 'can' be retrained and if you can tough it out for more like 2 months - you CAN get used to this way of eating and the 'way you feel'. As any 'ardent' lo carb supporter - they will tell you - they feel 'better' than ever. From my own journey trying 'ardently' both ways of life -the reason ANY of us feel better after we take control of our D is much less about the diet we choose and much more about having lower blood glucose numbers and secondly any exercise we've added. Assuming we all cut out the very, very carbiest of sweets from where we were eating before - again even moderate carbers are feeling better by taking the meds and/or insulin to control their BG levels. It's less about food choice, specifically and more about controlling the BG levels and the activity you've added to your life.Toms Grandma said:Slimfast like Literlife are low calorie diets and they work by making your body use its own fat to survive. It takes about three days of eating 600 calories a day to get into 'fat burning'. It means the fat around the liver, pancreas etc is being used and when thats gone it uses the rest of the fat in your body for energy. Once in 'fat burning' one often gets a feeling of well being. Rarely, but it does happen, some people feel tired to begin with until the body 'switches gear'. Whilst on this type of diet, you need to drink 2 litres of water a day, this is to help push the ketones out of the body that you make by being on this diet. If the diet is adhered to, you can lose about 10lb in the first two weeks and then 3lb a week on average thereafter. I have known people lose 10 stone over 10 months. I myself lost 4 1/2 stone in 4 months. It works, but you have to be incredibly dedicated and stick to it.
I know MANY non diabetics who eat the 'normal 300g of carbs a day or higher diet', are NOT athletes, but stay 'fit' and they feel AMAZINGLY healthy - even eating 'strawberries & cream' once a day. Feeling 'good', a very subjective notion to begin with, is mostly about proper body systems balance (BG level control and other systems in homeostasis) and light to heavy activity and getting good vitamins and minerals -- leading as stress free a life as possible -- AND LASTLY, but ALSO importantly - a 'good healthy' diet. (For the record I do NOT believe in Extreme lo carb diets of <50g of carbs a day as a mainstay for controlling BG levels. It's worked for me for 'dieting purposes only - and though it CAN work VERY effectively for MANY to control D, it is not the 'most healthy' in my research). Reducing and/or ELIMINATING 'processed carbs' IS a MUST - but just for GENERAL health purposes and not specifically for D control. We are also eating less of and afraid too much of 'fats' in modern society. From comparing LOTS of research the 'healthiest' ratio is not believed to be: 25% carbs, 30% protein, 50% good fats and some saturated fats too. Many D's will prefer to go more like 10, 30, 60 and I respect the decision but don't recommend it to newbies. I never felt well on that kind of diet even after giving it a long time.
That's my '2 years of educating myself' conviction. Others feel/conclude differently. I respect that.
As for me - I'm moderate carbing, don't deprive myself of anything but the harsh sugarey things and I even have them occasionally. I've lost 65 lbs in 2 years (the long healthy way to lose lots of weight from all I've read and my docs tell me) and I'll compare my monthly BG averages and A1c with any ardent ultra lo carber or lo calorie person anywhere. There are many ways to get to a goal. The important thing is 'making one' and staying on a path toward it.
Back to this topic.. This diet is still intriguing to me and I may consider it. I just don't know if I've burnt off enough of my pancreas and liver fat doing things my way. That's the intriguing part. It seems like once you do that.. Then it won't build back up that fast and when I return to 'my method' I shouldn't regain the fat/pancreas fat. At least that's how it seems to me.