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Are we going to die post-Brexit?

Discussion in 'Ask A Question' started by SeanJ_99, Nov 5, 2018.

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  1. dbr10

    dbr10 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Then you didn't understand that the EU is a rules based organisation and has acted exactly as it said it would. It will prioritize the interests of EU27. This was always going to be the outcome. You should not have believed the delusional fantasist who told you 27 countries needed us more than we needed them.
     
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    dbr10 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Trade with China is not on such advantageous terms. There will still be trade with the EU, but we are likely to face tariffs, and customs checks. That causes disruption to supplies
     
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    dbr10 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Except that it already has. Many EU NHS workers have already left.
     
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    dbr10 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Very good
     
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    dbr10 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    You had unrealistic expectations.
     
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    dbr10 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    No. This is nonsense. Medicines from countries outside the EU will not necessarily be licensed for use here.

    Project Fact. Facts do actually matter
     
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    librarising LADA · Well-Known Member

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    I refuse to watch BBC News, because it's so agenda-led. For a long time, Sky News was my go-to channel for news, but over time it also has adopted a pro-Remain agenda. It's as clear as day to me. Our media has become Orwellian, and objectivity has largely gone out of the window.
    I now judge news sources by what they don't cover as much as by what they do cover and how they cover it.
    Geoff
     
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    dbr10 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I don't think you quite understand the situation. Our trade with them is IIRC over 40 pc; there's with us is around 15pc. They will take a hit, but they won't compromise to help us. They are more concerned with maintaining the integrity of the EU and it's rules. They are looking after EU27 interests, not ours.
     
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    Sorry to say that is a complete misreading of the situation
     
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    dbr10 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Quite.
     
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    librarising LADA · Well-Known Member

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    When 27 countries buy more from us than we buy from them, the original truth is self-evident.
    When ex-President Gorbachev compared the EU to the old Soviet Union, you wonder who the fantasists are.
    Geoff (be careful what you wish for)
     
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    dbr10 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    The OP would not have been to vote and it's his future which will be impacted. Demographics mean the 1.2m pensioners have died in the past two years, and 1.5m young voters can now vote. Plus, it was a gerrymandered campaign, involving electoral fraud and illegal overspending. UK citizens in the EU over 15 years were promised a vote and were denied one. It's a complete mess.
     
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    They are not necessarily linked in that way. Sometimes if £ goes down, FTSE goes up, because of firms' foreign currency earnings. Speculators made money from shorting the £ after the vote and plan to do so again. Rabobank predicts £/Euro parity on a no deal for example.
     
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    dbr10 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Your right about the NHS decline and the financial crisis, but Brexit makes the economy poorer on any exit senario. That means less money for Public services.
     
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    dbr10 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Exactly right.
     
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    Well whatever side you’re on thngs coming in from the EU will go up on price. Eg. all the peppers (and tomatoes in winter, other veg I wont mention fruit on here) that come in from Spain. With extra layers of paperwork virtual or otherwise and customs checks it is guaranteed the extra cost will be passed on to the British consumer. As usual the poor will only be able to afford the cheap processed rubbish even morethan currently. Its not rocket science.
     
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    He was smarter than Cameron. Only had the vote because he thought he would win.
     
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    Of course. Margaret Thatcher championed the Single Market and the four freedoms.
     
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    Again, sorry but I wish now to be left out of this thread.
     
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    About their refusal to investigate the criminality.
     
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