borofergie said:
noblehead said:
borofergie said:
As far as I know, me and Lib are the only two that religiously follow Bernstein at <30g a day. Do you think it's a coincidence that our results are so good?
No your wrong Stephen as Dillinger also follows a strict Bernstein diet and has done for several years, perhaps he may post his cholesterol results also so you can all compare.
That's true too. I was forgetting my T1 Low-Carb/Anchorman idol Dillinger. His HbA1c as a T1 blows the socks off mine.
Problem with comparing members individual results to the findings of this study really doesn't work, for various reasons...
A comparable comparison could be made between Dillinger and myself, both T1's and both use different dietary regimes! Not sure how long Dillinger has been following the VLC diet, but going by his very first post in 2009, then he's only been VLC'ing for around 3 years! As to my diet pretty traditional based, and the only difference between pre-diabetes and diabetes, is dropping things like sugar in coffee etc.. So could say a lot of history to my dietary regime..
So straight comparison, Dillinger's HbA1c's on his sig, is 6.1% my last one taken in April was 5.8%, Dillinger takes Metformin and several supplements he feels are beneficial I don't take any other medication apart from insulin, and my cholesterol is in the low 3's! So I could claim my way of doing things is better as the results are better! and no complications after 23 years.
But if you take a look at the Swedish 4 year study just released for T1 and VLC diet (75g's>) that study showed that precipitants who adhered to the diet for 4 years, were back to where they started from, weight dropped in the first 6 months, but then increased at the 24 month check, they were back to starting weight, their cholesterol level has increased slightly from the start of the trial!
But as I pointed out earlier that findings from LC/HF diets showed a very good conclusion when monitored for a short period, 3 months, 6 months but extend the period time to the trial then the picture get murkier as two factors hit's most of the trials, in general the drop out rate of the precipitants which both seem to be higher the lower the carbs are reduced, and then over time increases the drop out rate! Going back to the T1 study, 52% drop out rate, before year 2 of the study, sadly apart from mention 3 dropped out after the first meeting, no time scale provided where others stopped adhering to the diet regime just it happen between 3month's and 24 months!
But going back to the study itself...
Now there's diff something going on with Fats as Fat increased carb consumption dropped and cholesterol went up!
So perhaps it's isn't Fat alone nor is it Carb's alone but how people combine the two within their diets...
But to me it suggests, that some proper long term and when I say long term I mean, 10-15 plus rather than the norm 6 month trail is carried out..
As this study goes to show it isn't as clean cut as some like to suggest it is..