xyzzy said:
jopar said:
Going back to the T1 study, 52% drop out rate, before year 2 of the study, sadly apart from mention 3 dropped out after the first meeting, no time scale provided where others stopped adhering to the diet regime just it happen between 3month's and 24 months!
Like I said in last nights post Jopar 48% adhered to the T1 low carb diet that's
15% MORE than T1's who adhere to the regime they're told here in the UK.
Over the period of the trial the 48% who adhered
REDUCED their hBA1C's significantly.
How on earth do you get that to be a failure?
How does one work out that, a success has been made when 52% of the people failed to adhered to the diet regime!
Considering that the precipitants were well motivated all 48 of them... Wonder what the actually result would be if it was enforced on all T1 diabetic? If as you say, only around 33% of T1's in the UK adhere to current recommendation, you would have something like a 15% adhering to the regime!
15% is probably around the percentage of the T1's in this country that follow a VLC diet to control their diabetes!
But I really don't call a 1% drop of HbA1c as significant not when it doesn't bring somebody into the top end of non-diabetic figures! Nor did there seems to be any improvements gained with cholesterol level's which raised, but the profile ratio's remained the same so no decrease or increase of risk factor as such! Nor where there any significant gains within weight lose, apart from the first couple of months, then it was a slow increase back to almost square one!
But the same as you I will view this study and any study with a slant of bias to it, your's is purely is their any information in their that support your claims, with me it's as a T1 who achieves excellent results on a normal diet!
Now you claim that because because a 48% success rate is 15% more than those in the UK adhere to the currant advice given, is very misguided, as you forgetting that all the precipitants in the trail were willing precipitants within that trial... So can't be compared to UK figures, two reason, two different diets and UK group precipitants didn't elect themselves to take part!
As if only 33% of UK T1's can adhered to the currant advice, which is far less restrictive then the likely hood if you selected people from this group, then you would be looking at around a 14/15% adhesion rate!
You've also chose to ignore the Author calculations of the Adhesion rate if rolled out into the main stream treatment, would be a 10-20 up take of the diet, so a 5-10% adhesion rate! Starts to to turn shed a different light on things... So a 5-10% success rate in all T1 diabetics... Turns out to be more dismal then the adhesion rate of the currant regime in the UK!
But looking from my own personal view point and the results I gain from my own regime... Well a 5.8% HbA1c and a lot lower Cholesterol level etc, never had any weight issues... it wouldn't be an improvement on my currant management! So I view it's success based on how it would roll out into main stream control and impact there! Which from what is said it has a limited ability of success!
