jopar
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Steph, it's not whether you care a stuff and like to make an assumption as saying that Statins are only consumed by those that eat high carb diets, is actually wrong they can also be taken by those following a low carb diet! So their inclusion and considerations is very important..
I would agree, that their is a variation to what is termed 'low carb' diet so I generally check what this is, when reading a piece of research, check the conclusion for the paper, then take a look at the drop out rate, then length of time, the results etc... Before I decide what my opinion is about the paper/trail..
The latest Swedish T1 low carb study that just been released, was 75g> carbs, had a drop out rate over 2 years of 52% 3 turned up for the first meeting and didn't return! but even those who did stay the distance the results they got, wasn't quite I would expected from claims I hear should be achievable!
But here's some research I've been looking at the weekend..
The Swedish study for T1's link can be found in the T1 forum, and hopefully Xyzzy, will link to the Swedish T2 trial but here's a couple I looked at; at the weekend
Here's another interesting one http://www.springerlink.com/content/b56 ... t.html#CR6
Another one I was looking at, more to do with protein though http://www.springerlink.com/content/n42 ... lltext.pdf
http://www.ajcn.org/content/87/1/114.long and this a Canadian one http://www.ajcn.org/content/87/1/114.long
As I said in my first post that most trials look at a very short period of time, 3, 6 months even when these are put through a Mata-analyse it's still dealing with a short period of time.. And this is the problem as you need to see what happens over a lot longer period of time.. As it's reasonably easy to ask people to adhered to a specific diet regime for a short period of time not so easy when you start extending the period of time to years adhesion becomes a bit more problematic so it gets more and more difficult to quantify the data to build the true picture!
I would agree, that their is a variation to what is termed 'low carb' diet so I generally check what this is, when reading a piece of research, check the conclusion for the paper, then take a look at the drop out rate, then length of time, the results etc... Before I decide what my opinion is about the paper/trail..
The latest Swedish T1 low carb study that just been released, was 75g> carbs, had a drop out rate over 2 years of 52% 3 turned up for the first meeting and didn't return! but even those who did stay the distance the results they got, wasn't quite I would expected from claims I hear should be achievable!
But here's some research I've been looking at the weekend..
The Swedish study for T1's link can be found in the T1 forum, and hopefully Xyzzy, will link to the Swedish T2 trial but here's a couple I looked at; at the weekend
Here's another interesting one http://www.springerlink.com/content/b56 ... t.html#CR6
Another one I was looking at, more to do with protein though http://www.springerlink.com/content/n42 ... lltext.pdf
http://www.ajcn.org/content/87/1/114.long and this a Canadian one http://www.ajcn.org/content/87/1/114.long
As I said in my first post that most trials look at a very short period of time, 3, 6 months even when these are put through a Mata-analyse it's still dealing with a short period of time.. And this is the problem as you need to see what happens over a lot longer period of time.. As it's reasonably easy to ask people to adhered to a specific diet regime for a short period of time not so easy when you start extending the period of time to years adhesion becomes a bit more problematic so it gets more and more difficult to quantify the data to build the true picture!