Baked beans

[samantha13]

How do you all carb count your baked beans. Dafne tells me that 200g has 10g carbs due to the beans being a slow release carb but the back of the tin says 30g carbs.

This is my first time having beans since doing the course but beforehand I went with the 30g carbs and don't think I'd any hypos?

 

[novorapidboi26]

Unless I am having a full tin I wouldn't normally count for them...and if it was a full tin I would take half the carbs.....

as I am on a pump I have tried to bolus for a half tin but the effect was negligible......

its really a personal thing though......test it out and make your decision from the results...

 

[slip]

carbs are carbs regardless of how quick or slow they 'release'. Only testing will show you what affect they have on you though.

 

[samantha13]

I've taken the dafne advice and took 1u for the half tin. Will keep an eye on my bg!

 

[Robinredbreast]

How do you all carb count your baked beans. Dafne tells me that 200g has 10g carbs due to the beans being a slow release carb but the back of the tin says 30g carbs.

This is my first time having beans since doing the course but beforehand I went with the 30g carbs and don't think I'd any hypos?

All tins of beans have different carb content, but they are high. I don't eat a lot of baked beans, I use 1/2 tin in my chilli as I don't like kidney beans and I divide the chilli into two meals and I always count these. I use Morrisons saver baked beans.
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Nutrition Facts
Serving Size: 1/2 can (205 g)

per serve
Kilojoules 715 kj
Calories 171 kcal
Protein 8.8 g
Carbohydrate 27.4 g
Sugar 9.4 g
Fat 1.2 g
Saturated Fat 0.2 g
Fibre 7.6 g
Sodium 360 mg

 

[novorapidboi26]

The DAFNE thinking is the beans glucose release is too slow for analogue insulin's used in MDI....

Which makes sense but everyone experiences different reactions....

Making sure your basal and bolus doses are bang on will be the only way to truly see the effect of the beans....

 

[CathP]

We use the 50% reduced sugar baked beans, and bolus for all the carbs and half the protein. Using this method my daughter can have a 70g serving of beans which we calculate as 10g carbs/calculable protein, with no spike.

 

[Robinredbreast]

How do you all carb count your baked beans. Dafne tells me that 200g has 10g carbs due to the beans being a slow release carb but the back of the tin says 30g carbs.

This is my first time having beans since doing the course but beforehand I went with the 30g carbs and don't think I'd any hypos?

1/2 can of savers baked beans, 205 g, is 27.4 carbs. Dafne is way out, if I had 1 unit for their info, I would be extremely high afterwards, slow release or not

 

[novorapidboi26]

I wouldn't say they are way out.........there are some rare cases where it doesn't work.....where the normal behaviours are not observed....for various reasons....

the only way to be sure of the effect is to ensure basal/bolus doses are correct....

 

[samantha13]

So instead of trusting my instinct I went with the dafne professionals. 6.2 pre lunch 14 now 1 hour post lunch. I'm so cross

 

[novorapidboi26]

you will need to wait till the next meal or when your insulin runs out to make a proper analysis of the dosing decision...

a spike could be the result of a mistimed dose you see....

 

[noblehead]

I always bolus for the carbs shown on the label of baked beans, had a half a tin on some toast last weekend and bolused for the total carb content of the meal.

 

[Daibell]

As most baked beans tins are loaded with added sugar how can they be low-GI unless you have the reduced sugar ones.

 

[samantha13]

As most baked beans tins are loaded with added sugar how can they be low-GI unless you have the reduced sugar ones.

At the dafne course we were advised as the beans are low gi it's the sauce we are counting. The dafne book advises 1cp (10g carbs) per 200g beans. The tin says 30g (3cps) for 200g. Although I learned so much at the course and it has brought me better control, this particular piece of advice I won't be following again with a spike post lunch

 

[azure]

So instead of trusting my instinct I went with the dafne professionals. 6.2 pre lunch 14 now 1 hour post lunch. I'm so cross

Yeah, I'd have ignored DAFNE and gone with the carbs on the tin... I go for the reduced sugar ones (but not the diet ones as they taste gross, in my opinion) and I've found all those carbs most definitely have to be counted.

 

[rockape37]

As most baked beans tins are loaded with added sugar how can they be low-GI unless you have the reduced sugar ones.

Its the beans that are low Gi but the sauce is the added sugar.

Regards

Martin

 

[rockape37]

I just bolus for the added sugar and it works for me.

Before the DAFNE course i would bolus for the carb content of both beans and sauce and that also worked but having said that my bg and carb counting prior to the course was all over the place.

I'm a good diabetic now..........Now where is that bar of chocolate gone?....oops I've eaten it.

Regards

Martin

 

[1abRat]

I bolus for the amount on the tin.

I don't have them often but the last time I had beans was actually last weekend and bolusing for the tin contents worked perfectly for me. I just didn't bolus in advance of the meal so my insulin didn't have too much of a head start!

 

[novorapidboi26]

My theory pre pump was that because I was injecting a long acting basal insulin, which is designed to be absorbed slower, the rate at which the beans glucose entered the blood stream was at a similar rate to the Levemir action, and so no bolus was required for the beans....

Now because of the inefficiency of injecting itself [in comparison to pumping] there was always a buffer in the dose that could deal with slower released items like beans....

Now on the pump, a much more efficient means of delivery, my basal in near enough spot on so that buffer is gone now, which would suggest a bolus is now required.....

And thats why now, if I have a full tin, I would bolus for half only.....as the beans are still too slow for the Novorapid.....

I think thats a pretty good theory....

 

[CathP]

It's funny how everyone is different isn't it. We're MDI levemir, and unbolused beans would send my daughter from 5mmol to double figures in about 10 minutes flat lol!