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Breakdown of Italy’s figures (edited title)
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He is in contact with a lot of American doctors.
We are free to believe what we like, I have fairies at the bottom of my garden.
Trump didn't believe Coronavirus was happening, now he keeps blaming the Chinese. That is sure to get him out of a big hole, I dont think.
D.
A polls show shockingly high number of otherwise sensible people in the USA still worship Trump nothing makes his support drop below 40% of voters. Even more worringly gun sales in the USA have skyrocketed
JohnEGreen
Master
Hong Kong now seem to be having a second wave of infections.
Mr_Pot
Well-Known Member
That is amazing, he seems to be an egotistical idiot. Boris hardly inspires confidence but at least he doesn't undermine the advisers by claiming he is an expert on everything.
lindisfel
Expert
How true, Mr Pots!
Watched Nicola Sturgeon on the news channel yesterday. She's a strong woman and had no bumbling and fluffing, she has more 'of them' than many a man!
D.
JohnEGreen
Master
He does have a degree in general science so he should know better
Seems to be and idiot but he knows his audience.
Mr_Pot
Well-Known Member
I assume you mean Trump, in which case you may be interested in this....
https://www.forbes.com/sites/christ...want-anyone-to-know-his-grades-or-sat-scores/
lindisfel
Expert
And I thought his degree was in race relations!
JohnEGreen
Master
I just said Elexa what degree does Donald Trump have?
lucylocket61
Expert
do you have a link to that information please? I am not doubting you. A link might help me get a point through the skull of a particular relative.
Dark Horse
Well-Known Member
This research paper says:-
CONCLUSIONS:
Receipt of influenza vaccination was not associated with virus interference among our population.
Receipt of influenza vaccination was not associated with virus interference among our population.
Robinredbreast
Oracle
BBC news, 5pm, Italy is now increased 6,078 
JohnEGreen
Master
The daily fatalities numbers are dropping for two days in a row now.
bulkbiker
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I though this was quite an interesting analysis of numbers of people who die every year in Italy.
Between 250-300k of the over 75's die every year. 62,500 -ish every quarter.
From this study
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285
Between 250-300k of the over 75's die every year. 62,500 -ish every quarter.
From this study
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285
BBC news, 5pm, Italy is now increased 6,078
The media tend to focus on the total number of cases the main indicator number to watch is the number of new cases diagnosed per day which is now showing a definite decline
Daily death toll lags behind the diagnosed new cases by several days the number of new cases per day. but in Italy even the number of deaths pers day has fallen since Friday.
The number of recovered cases lags even further behind.
JohnEGreen
Master
I think when those who are left to post here in a few months time will look back at this a the most macabre period ever on this forum when we seem to spend so much time concentrating on the death toll.
LooperCat
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I suspect you’re right. Let’s just hope we all make it through, eh?
lucylocket61
Expert
I look at the death toll as that is an indicator or what is happening and how stringent I need to be, and hope the government will be.
It is not macabre interest.
JohnEGreen
Master
If you say so I say for what ever reason including my own I have relatives living in Italy its a touch macabre.
disturbing because concerned with or causing a fear of death.
The word has gained its significance from its use in French as la danse macabre for the allegorical representation of the ever-present and universal power of death, known in English as the Dance of Death and in German as Totentanz.
disturbing because concerned with or causing a fear of death.
The word has gained its significance from its use in French as la danse macabre for the allegorical representation of the ever-present and universal power of death, known in English as the Dance of Death and in German as Totentanz.
Anybody seen this report in the FT? Not specifically about Italy but it offers a very different view of the situation.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b
If you click on the link it may appear to be behind a paywall but it is syndicated news that can be accessed via Google.
Coronavirus may have infected half of UK population — Oxford study
New epidemiological model shows vast majority of people suffer little or no illness
If the results of the study are confirmed, they imply that fewer than one in a thousand of those infected with Covid-19 become ill enough to need hospital treatment © Tolga Akmen/AFP
March 24, 2020 4:19 pm by Clive Cookson , Science Editor
The new coronavirus may already have infected far more people in the UK than scientists had previously estimated — perhaps as much as half the population — according to modelling by researchers at the University of Oxford.
If the results are confirmed, they imply that fewer than one in a thousand of those infected with Covid-19 become ill enough to need hospital treatment, said Sunetra Gupta, professor of theoretical epidemiology, who led the study. The vast majority develop very mild symptoms or none at all.
“We need immediately to begin large-scale serological surveys — antibody testing — to assess what stage of the epidemic we are in now,” she said.
The modelling by Oxford’s Evolutionary Ecology of Infectious Disease group indicates that Covid-19 reached the UK by mid-January at the latest. Like many emerging infections, it spread invisibly for more than a month before the first transmissions within the UK were officially recorded at the end of February.
The research presents a very different view of the epidemic to the modelling at Imperial College London, which has strongly influenced government policy. “I am surprised that there has been such unqualified acceptance of the Imperial model,” said Prof Gupta.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b
If you click on the link it may appear to be behind a paywall but it is syndicated news that can be accessed via Google.
Coronavirus may have infected half of UK population — Oxford study
New epidemiological model shows vast majority of people suffer little or no illness
If the results of the study are confirmed, they imply that fewer than one in a thousand of those infected with Covid-19 become ill enough to need hospital treatment © Tolga Akmen/AFP
March 24, 2020 4:19 pm by Clive Cookson , Science Editor
The new coronavirus may already have infected far more people in the UK than scientists had previously estimated — perhaps as much as half the population — according to modelling by researchers at the University of Oxford.
If the results are confirmed, they imply that fewer than one in a thousand of those infected with Covid-19 become ill enough to need hospital treatment, said Sunetra Gupta, professor of theoretical epidemiology, who led the study. The vast majority develop very mild symptoms or none at all.
“We need immediately to begin large-scale serological surveys — antibody testing — to assess what stage of the epidemic we are in now,” she said.
The modelling by Oxford’s Evolutionary Ecology of Infectious Disease group indicates that Covid-19 reached the UK by mid-January at the latest. Like many emerging infections, it spread invisibly for more than a month before the first transmissions within the UK were officially recorded at the end of February.
The research presents a very different view of the epidemic to the modelling at Imperial College London, which has strongly influenced government policy. “I am surprised that there has been such unqualified acceptance of the Imperial model,” said Prof Gupta.
