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Discussion in 'Greetings and Introductions' started by Ksultan, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. Ksultan

    Ksultan Other · Member

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    Hi All,

    I need some help please, 28th of Feb there was a random blood check setup at my office, though i wasn't Interested but I got it checked anyways and the result 161 Random, they scared me, next morning they did they random HBA1C result more scary 9.7% with average of 230 puff

    Same day I purchased a glucometer aqua chexk and shifted to Brown bread / multi grain bread food with no chees or mayo or sause and water only, and tea without suger

    So from last 14 days my numbers are some thing like this

    Fasting 105 to 111 (maximum was 111 and minimum was 105)

    2 hours after food is under 120

    1 hour after food is 160 to 180 was 185 aswell

    General random is usually under 110 even 101, 106, 105 etc

    After excersice is usually from 88 to 94 _

    Ps I do excersice regularly and now I have even started jogging for the days I am not going to play racket ball.

    I went to doctor showed him the numbers and HBA1C and he said no need for medicine, Keep doing what you are doing and we will do a fasting blood check / HBA1C after one month I.e. 7th of April

    I need experienc advise on this situation please, I there any way I can go normal :(

    I am attaching my checks here
     

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  2. Juicyj

    Juicyj Type 1 · Moderator
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    Hello and welcome to the forum @Ksultan.

    There's a wealth of information contained within the forum, we also have new members information which i'll tag @daisy1 for. Sounds like your really working hard at this and your results are certainly showing massive improvement. I don't think there is such a thing as 'normal' however by maintaining exercise and healthy eating so limiting the carbs you eat, then you will keep this at arm's length.
     
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  3. Ksultan

    Ksultan Other · Member

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    Thank you @Juicyj for the reply, improvement is there but I need to bring fasting to normal level without medicine! Working hard for that!
     
  4. Resurgam

    Resurgam Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    You seem to have got the wrong information about the problem - which is carbohydrates - the cheese and mayonnaise are not high carb so you can eat them, the bread and any densely carb foods will raise blood glucose levels.
    You do not seem to have huge problems, so reducing the high carb intake rather than cutting out some foods, which is what I have to do to get normal results, should bring you back down too.
     
  5. daisy1

    daisy1 Type 2 · Legend
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    @Ksultan

    Hello Ksultan and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will help.

    BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

    Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

    A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

    On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

    The role of carbohydrate

    Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

    If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

    The bad news

    Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

    The good news

    People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

    Controlling your carbs

    The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

    There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
    • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
    • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
    Reduce your carbohydrates

    A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

    The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

    Choosing better carbohydrates

    The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

    Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

    Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

    Eating what works for you

    Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

    To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

    The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

    Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
    • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
    However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

    Access to blood glucose test strips

    The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
    • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
    • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

    Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

    You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

    Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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  6. Ksultan

    Ksultan Other · Member

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    Thank you for the reply, I am so illitrate when it comes to what to eat and what not and so scared to eat anything I can' explain and I am even starving at times, the doctor I visited didn't really help me with that, might seems like a stupid question to you but should I avoide multigrain bread as well?
     
  7. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Expert

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    Personally I avoid all bread.. in fact I avoid most food with more than 5% carbohydrate in it. If you are happy to share where you live we might be able to help with more specialist foodstuffs. How is your food labelling? It might be harder for you to find out what is beneficial for your health.
     
  8. Ksultan

    Ksultan Other · Member

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    Actually, I am in Dubai, if I can get this help would be aweome! Plus I live alone and eat out most of the time and doing that from 3/4 years, I think this is where it went wrong at first place, now I am sticking to Tim hortons, star bucks And subway and simple sandwiches 3 times a day! Guess In last years i have eaten pizza hutt and burger king enough for rest of my life
     
  9. Crocodile

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    Lose the bread and sandwiches. Eat out less often. You can't know what is really in the food. Other carb high stuff is rice, pasta, pastry and spuds. Everybody is different to how these affect them. Read the food labels. For me, I have max 20 gms carbs per meal or up to 30gms if it is low GI carb. If you are heavy, lose weight. It really makes a big difference. Good luck, you've come to a good place.
    Glenn
     
  10. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Expert

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    Personally I'd ditch anything bread like. Do Subway there do salad bowls? That would be better.
    Better still would be cooking for yourself of course then you can control exactly what is going into your body.
    Do you have any dietary restrictions due to religious beliefs?
    Burger king would be ok without the fires and buns.. just have the burger. In the UK you can order bunless at Burger King but I have never been to Dubai.
     
  11. Ksultan

    Ksultan Other · Member

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    Thank you for the advise, I have purchased a griller the other day so I can grill some chicken, veg and beef aswell, will avoide bread as much as possible and will do some research on food overall. I read somewhere on the internet 'strike the spike' mine's going to 170 to 180 after 45 mins to 60 mins of food and settling down close to 120, some times 122, 124 but most of the time under 120, fasting however is not coming down staying between 105 and 111, will see food changes and how it effects, I am over weight and trying to lose weight infact working hard for that! I am glad I joined this forum already getting great advises!
     
  12. JoKalsbeek

    JoKalsbeek Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Most people are "illiterate" about food, quite simply because what we learn is often wrong, and if it is right for "regular" people, it sure isn't for people like us. The knee-jerk reaction is to just not eat, I know! But there's loads out there. Just not too sure Timmy's is the way to go. ;) Try cutting carb-laden foods. That's bread, (yeah, wholegrain too), pastries (like donuts abd Timbits ;)), rice, couscous, corn, pasta, potatoes, cereal, fruit and the like. Go nuts on nuts, berries (the only fruit most of us can handle), hummus, vegetables, eggs, cheese, mayo, meat, full fat yoghurt, olives, cream and what have you... Your body needs something to run on, and as you can't process carbs anymore (kinda like putting diesel in a petrol engine), you need something else to burn; fat and protein will both be filling and energy-giving. That's in a nutshell what I arrived at after reading a bunch of books and half the internet. I've been off meds for little over a year now and my HbA1c is 38, diet controlled. It's doable. It helps if you don't eat out much and take control of what enters your mouth from your own kitchen, but if there's no other choice? Salads! Mixed grill! Go for a steak with veggies. Good luck!
     
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    Ksultan Other · Member

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    We do have bunless option here at MacDonalds not sure about burger king will check. I can have some dietary ristrictions depends what are we talking about.

    I did an experiment last night tried bitter melon juice but added green apples, 2 bitter melon and 2 green apple as I read it somewhere on internet that's it's good for lowering blood glucose but not it didn't work out actually my fasting today was higher than last whole month 117 so green apple is a no no / just had a small portion of bitter melon juice without anything else, just 2 of them, hoping to get good numbers before breakfast.
     
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    Contralto Type 2 · Expert

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    May skip all bread, pasta, potatoes as well as sugars. Then ut down on fruit and eliminate fruit juice

    See what you get
     
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    May skip all bread, pasta, potatoes as well as sugars. Then cut down on fruit and eliminate fruit juice

    See what you get
     
  16. Ksultan

    Ksultan Other · Member

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    Thank you! I am trying to change my eating habits, I have been living alone for so long UK, Qatar, China, and now here in Dubai, wish I would have learned to cook earlier I did this bitter melon experiment last night juice but added green apples as I saw the recipe online some Where though it said it's good for diab but learned green apple is a no / no this morning fasting I was 117 highest of all these days so bitter melon juice may be okay but green apple is a noo, it's so encouraing to know you are living witout med, I want to do exactly that control it and bring my HBA1C lower as next month doctor will decide if I should or shouldn't start a med, I don't want to start meds, if bitter melon can help I wouldn't mind having a glass every day! I can develop taste! Ahhhhhh :(
     
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    Ksultan Other · Member

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    Thank you, one thing is established no bread from right away!
     
  18. JoKalsbeek

    JoKalsbeek Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    You can ditch the bitter melon. Fibres slow down carbs, yeah? So if eating whole fruit (so with fibres) is a no-no, what do you think fibreless fruit (aka juice) does? If you don't want your sugar to spike, then cut the juices too. Stick with water, sugar free drinks (though some of us will spike off those. I'm lucky, I don't. Trial & error!), tea, coffee... Just stay hydrated with non-fruit/sugar fluids, and it'll make a huge difference! It's all in things you don't expect, I know, but it can be done, really!
     
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    Ksultan Other · Member

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    Thank you so much, I am learning fast!
     
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