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Discussion in 'Ask A Question' started by lucylocket61, Feb 23, 2021.

  1. Rachox

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  2. lucylocket61

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    Thanks. I have re-read this thread as my reading comprehension yesterday was nil.

    I don't eat processed meat at all.

    Time to get out a food diary and start experimenting.
     
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    For me legumes are a major problem for inflammation. I find even a small bite of hummus hurts my joints.
     
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    Could I just ask how the diagnosis was made, @lucylocket61 ?
    Reason being, I have had allergies since childhood. Mainly skin flares, but around 40 years ago, nurse diagnosed asthma by testing my lung capacity with one of those hand held spirometer gadgets. No further testing, but was given inhalers.

    A year or two later in minor injuries unit after falling down stairs and breaking fingers, another nurse declared I had COPD. When I said I had asthma not COPD she just said something like “ Oh well, same difference”. Gave me nightmares.

    In this modern era, I would think a diagnosis would need at the very least, blood tests, xrays, a spirometry test before and after using bronchodialator meds, possibly a referral to a consultant.. Though I stress I am no expert. Iwould be asking for a referral, and some tests, as well as support. There are specialist nursing teams who will visit at home if needed.

    It turned out I did not have COPD at all, but allergies, and an immune disorder which, though it took several years, are currently controlled by meds. Also my lung capacity, tested regularly at home, despite now being an OAP, and overweight at that , are as good as someone without asthma or COPD, 20 years younger. I exercise as best as I can, and also use turmeric in a latte mixed with cinnamon and ginger. Use a steroid preventer inhaler, but hardly ever need the rescue one. The turmeric, ginger cinnamon drinkis especially useful if I have a cold or chesty cough. Haven’t had any of those lately, though. Shielding, mask wearing etc, have meant avoiding people who pass on infections.

    oh yes, a hug to you, too.
     
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    That's interesting Pipp. I was diagnosed over the phone due to me saying I am still coughing in the morning to clear my chest, despite the preventer inhaler. The inhaler has helped a fair bit. I am supposed to pick up a prescription tomorrow to dry up my chest, and take it twice a day forever. I am not satisfied with the way I am being diagnosed for various things over the past few months, with virtually no input, discussion or further investigation.

    I am livid about my BP as I had the diagnosis of high BP based on one test in the surgery, no 24 hour test, just told to buy a meter, test twice a day for a fortnight, and fetch a prescription from the pharmacy.

    I feel fobbed off. I haven't had a proper review since a couple of months before lockdown, and I had to argue with the receptionist to get that.

    Sorry to vent.
     
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    Vent away if it helps.
    In your circumstances I would be asking for a proper assessment before accepting a diagnosis. Also, are you on medication of any sort for other conditions? Some meds do cause a chronic cough. Especially if there are several in the mix. I find the local, independent, pharmacy very helpful in doing medication reviews. That might be a source of info and assistance for you, too. Pharmacists are highly qualified HCPs who often have better knowledge of drug interactions than some other HCPs .
     
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    https://www.matherhospital.org/well...the-connection-between-diet-and-inflammation/

    Foods that Cause Inflammation:

    Foods that are linked to an inflammatory response include: saturated fats which are found in animal products, such as red meat and whole fat dairy products, trans fats which are found in fried foods and baked goods such as pastries, pizza dough, pie crust, cookies and crackers, omega-6 polyunsaturated fats which are found in corn, safflower, soybean and sunflower oils, and are often found in many packaged foods and sugar; which is the biggest enemy in the inflammation battle.
     
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    So any carnivore should of course be writhing on the floor in inflamed agony..

    that most (all?) report massive improvement in inflammation problems seems to imply that your "study" may not be worth the electrons it is written using?
     
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    Don’t blame meat for what vegetable oils and grains do.
    Standard western diet is that meat is eaten cooked in vegetable oils and with something like fried potatoes in vegetable oils. As well as highly refined wheat products like burger buns.
    Not to mention the sugary drinks that often go with it.
     
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    Did you have a CT scan and the usual chest X-Rays for the pulmonary specialist to make a COPD diagnosis on top your asthma?

    Sounds to me the "nurse" is using guess work here.
     
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    Hey, I m in the UK. CT scans are very difficult to get in my experience. No way would I get referred to a specialist.

    I have had x-ray though.
     
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    This is not in any way an accepted way to diagnose COPD without further tests.
    Did you have the x-ray to diagnose COPD or to rule out other causes? Did the x-ray confirm COPD?
     
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    X-ray said my chest was clear. I thought they might have been checking for tumours? This was 10 or 11 months ago. Nothing since.
     
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    PS apparently if I use the muco-something (not got it yet) if it dries up my chest it confirms good diagnosis?
     
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    UPDATE:

    I have made a telephone appointment with my GP as I am not satisfied with the way this has been diagnosed, or the speed of medications promoted with no proper investigations done.

    Wish me luck!!! The appointment is on the 8th March.
     
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    Luck wished and coming your way!
     
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    I hope you get things sorted. Good luck!
     
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    I'm sorry to hear about this Lucy; it seems you've been put through the wringer, and I'm sure it's not easy. That said, I've been reading your posts for a long time, and you seem strong, sensible and capable, so I do think you'll be able to get on top of this.
    I myself have had some quite serious inflammation pain in my ribs due to costochondritis and radial pain from a heart condition. I found significant relief from lowering my cholesterol, especially the triglycerides. My cardiologist put me on statins for a while, but took me off as he noted they were probably raising my blood sugars. Instead, I take atozet for hyperlipidemia, aspirin, and clopidogrel. Whether this is pertinent to your case, I don't know, but the opening of constricted blood vessels seemed to make a notable difference in my inflammatory issues. In dietary terms, my cardiologist specifically warns against carbohydrate and advises taking lean meat and vegetables. I take fish oil and eat a lot of oily fish too, and my inflammation has reduced alongside this diet, although I cannot say whether this is causally related- I just like fish!

    In any event, I wish you all the best, and I'd say you have a good chance of getting control of this: good luck!
     
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    You might find this informative.
     
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