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COVID 2019 Comorbidity with Diabetes

Winnie53 said:
That said, the statistics are in your favor. I'd be interested in hearing how you're protecting yourself and how you are prepared to manage if you become infected.
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I have no idea. I am a carer for my adult son, who lives with me. I have no plan.
 
@lucylocket61 does that mean you have no experience managing your asthma with a cold or influenza? And you don't know what medications and food you need to have on hand? And what actions to take if you have a cold or influenza and have an asthma attack on top of it?

I don't have asthma, nor am I knowledgeable about it. I only have lung damage.

This would be a good conversation to have with your doctor, or perhaps someone associated with a non-profit organization that serves those with asthma, or a support group, or an online forum.
 
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Winnie53 said:
@lucylocket61 does that mean you have no experience managing your asthma with a cold or influenza? And you don't know what medications and food you need to have on hand? And what actions to take if you have a cold or influenza and have an asthma attack on top of it?

I don't have asthma, nor am I knowledgeable about it. I only have lung damage.

This would be a good conversation to have with your doctor, or perhaps someone associated with a non-profit organization that serves those with asthma, or a support group, or an online forum.
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I have only been diagnosed with asthma for about 3 months. I have a helpline asthma charity number I could ring. Thanks.
 
@lucylocket61 . I am sorry, I haven’t kept up with this thread, so apologies everyone if this appears to be derailing. Although I have tagged lucylocket61, it is relevant to others who may be vulnerable due to having asthma.

For anyone with a chronic condition, they ought to be provided with a personal action plan. (Yes, I know how difficult that can be, as 15 years of T2 and I am still trying to get a diabetes action plan in place).This is particularly important currently for asthma and other lung conditions.
My own asthma plan was drawn up in consultation with an asthma nurse specialist. I had to nag GP to get it, and it took a few goes at it, but it is an entitlement.
It outlines optimum peak flow breath rate, use and dosage of preventer inhaler, how, and when to use reliever inhaler. Following the plan should keep my breathing fine, but in event of getting worse, such as with a virus or infection, it outlines steps I need to take, and when and how I should seek help. The plan is reviewed annually.

I am not unduly alarmed by the current threat from Covid 19, but do have a plan to follow if I should get symptoms. I am also avoiding crowds and public transport, but I do that anyway throughout the winter months.

Not wishing to alarm, but an asthma attack can escalate very quickly into an emergency, and a helpline might not have someone available 24 hours a day. It would be wise to get an action plan in place before it is needed, so that you know how to manage an asthma attack, before you actually need to.
 
jjraak said:
had read the same, @Winnie53
and interesting to hear about your run in with flu
i think as @Mr_Pot says we ran way higher for longer before DX, so i guess it's worrying, but little we can do
and in preference to get REALLY sick RIGHT NOW, i would my bodies defences to save me now , and defer it all day long until a few more years if i could (I hope )

when you say bg's up..here i'd say from 5/6 mmols to 9/10+ mmols would cause me serious concern if i couldn't find a food reason of sorts,
what jump did you find with the flu ?
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Here's an example. This was me with my illness (virus/flu?) At xmas. This day I ate nothing but my bs were all over the place. Really not sure what the spike at midday was because i can categorically say i ate nothing. We were due to see retake that (tribute band). Meal first then show. I couldn't stomache one bite and left for home. Hubby was worried as I hadnt eaten properly for several days. Zilch appetite.
 

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Tipetoo said:
Here's what the Asthma UK mob have to say about Coronavirus

https://www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/
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hi @Tipetoo

i know how hard it is to keep up to speed with threads, and it never hurts in these situations to repeat good advice..

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/th...dity-with-diabetes.171962/page-3#post-2223705

i would just add that personal part FOR me anyway..the docs was 10 puffs.., puff x 10 ..that gave me a chance at the docs to stop panicking and just breathe, but had i of tried that at home the journey there might have been less traumatic
one to note, i'd say.., but your aus advice was equally as useful...thank you for posting.
nice to know that wherever we are we ARE in this together

and it did make me think that in THAT situation i'd be no good ..so best to prep missus, and pin to wall ..JUST in case..
and hope it's never needed..
 
Debandez said:
Here's an example. This was me with my illness (virus/flu?) At xmas. This day I ate nothing but my bs were all over the place. Really not sure what the spike at midday was because i can categorically say i ate nothing. We were due to see retake that (tribute band). Meal first then show. I couldn't stomache one bite and left for home. Hubby was worried as I hadnt eaten properly for several days. Zilch appetite.
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and THAT maybe the moment when you realise, even if symptoms are low that something is not right, gives you the chance to mask up and take preventative measure for yourself and those around you, and if your wrong, and it is just a cold.....
i say we ALL WIN by your precautionary and selfless actions..those we LOVE are important enough to NOT take risks ..right

and that level of responsibility seeps out to the wider public if more of us do it.
 
jjraak said:
and it did make me think that in THAT situation i'd be no good ..so best to prep missus, and pin to wall ..JUST in case..
and hope it's never needed..
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I had a big asthma fridge magnet with similar instructions on it up to last week when my beer fridge died. I forgot to take them off before the delivery driver took it away after setting up the new fridge.
 
Debandez said:
Here's an example. This was me with my illness (virus/flu?) At xmas. This day I ate nothing but my bs were all over the place. Really not sure what the spike at midday was because i can categorically say i ate nothing. We were due to see retake that (tribute band). Meal first then show. I couldn't stomache one bite and left for home. Hubby was worried as I hadnt eaten properly for several days. Zilch appetite.
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It's interesting to see that much variability when ill and not eating. Looks like peaks ranged from 5 mmol/l (90 mg/dl) to 10 mmol/l (180 mg/dl). One question I have is how much are peaks due to the influenza, the food, and the cough medicine. Looking at what you experienced with the influenza alone, I doubt I'll ever be able to figure that out.

And then there's the immune system use of glucose...

The use of glucose for biosynthetic processes is similarly important in cells of the adaptive immune system. ... Glucose is important for both energy production and maintaining biosynthetic activities associated with the rapid expansion of immune cells and the production of immune modulators/effectors during an infection.

Hyperglycaemia in critically ill patients: the immune system’s sweet tooth
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5541425/
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Thanks for sharing your 24 hour screen shot. :)
 
Tipetoo said:
I had a big asthma fridge magnet with similar instructions on it up to last week when my beer fridge died. I forgot to take them off before the delivery driver took it away after setting up the new fridge.
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Hugs for the death of the beer fridge..
Thanks for sharing such a poignent moment.
But I know you'll have the asthma guide back asap... Be strong, it's gone to a better place.
 
PenguinMum said:
It matters a lot to me and is in front of my mind cos my late mum got a gum infection which didnt improve quickly with two different types of antibiotics. It sent her BG into orbit, she became very ill and died suddenly at home of a coronary event. Dont forget there is no treatment for this disease so you really are in the life/death casino if it gets critical with underlying disease. Just look at the WHO reporting, of the mortality so far the second underlying disease is Diabetes, top cardiovascular, both linked and age 60+. I qualify on both counts and would prefer to live.
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Oh I do see how that would be such a worry, @PenguinMum ... I'd love for someone to show you and us all how to control and keep the BG Down if we got ill over this.

Please good it doesn't come to that.
Take good care.
 
jjraak said:
But I know you'll have the asthma guide back asap... Be strong, it's gone to a better place.
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Plus about fifty other magnets, mainly heart foundation and Diabetes Queensland membership magnets that were collected over the years they would have gone in the junk as weli.

Must say the new fridge does look a bit bare on the doors, so have left the four star energy sticker on it, it is normally the first thing to get taken off the freezer door.

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urbanracer said:
And elsewhere it's being reported that it's already mutated into 2 strains with 1 more aggressive than the other and at least 1 person in the US has tested positive for both simultaneously.

This news item is behind a pay wall but you can read the headline....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science...as-mutated-aggressive-disease-say-scientists/
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Yes, worrying... Have been reading that in a few places.

Re the mortality rate, for anyone checking do read through, it does explain how much a live CFR.. Case fatality rate... is really a series of well estimated guesses.. It needs the crisis to end to have totally correct data.
 
jjraak said:
Yes, worrying... Have been reading that in a few places
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I feel that I also detect a subtle shift in the language being used by the WHO as there is talk of the virus becoming 'endemic' - meaning it may circulate in the wider community indefinitely.

Now that it's also shown the ability to mutate and may require more than 1 vaccine I don't see this problem going away quickly. I hope I am wrong.
 
Does anyone know of any diabetics surviving this? The stars etc just tell you of people with diabetes being the ones who die? It’s very worrying
 
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