https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-53877292Don't worry as I am sure kindly retailer will take advantage of the panic pandemic evinced in this thread and supply some branded masks! And look how well they are doing in Thailand:
Witty does go on to say that it’s the adults who’ll be most at risk when schools reopen, and that he expects an increases in cases when people (parents?) return to work."Coronavirus: Missing school is worse than virus for children - Whitty"
This shows that even highly placed experts can make the most foolish statements and pronouncements.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53875410
So far I have not been able to ascertain the number of deaths of children caused directly by missing school but so far there have been at least 71 children admitted to intensive care units with covid 19 in the UK of which 5 have died.
Does something special happen after 31 Dec? Apart, that is, from the surge of cases caused by Christmas family gatherings.He’s working for the govt. Others, less sanguine, were ousted. It’s the £3trillion National debt doing the talking and at least Witty’s shown it’s not going to be totally ‘safe’ to open schools and return to work.
Elsewhere there are articles about the difficulties of transport for workers and children, the perfect storm looming after 31 Dec and trying to avoid another national lockdown.
2 things.Surely this is an argument for PPE for adult school staff,
Didn't you know Christmas is cancelled.the surge of cases caused by Christmas family gatherings.
Brexit with no deal, or an unworkable deal, and lots of complications over customs with or without a deal.Does something special happen after 31 Dec? Apart, that is, from the surge of cases caused by Christmas family gatherings.
We know that additional children committed suicide (child mortality dataase for England) as a result of lockdown (estimated to account for 12 of the 25 suicides occurring in children in the first 56 days of lockdown in England. Those deaths were linked to people suffering with autism, ADHD type disorders."Coronavirus: Missing school is worse than virus for children - Whitty"
This shows that even highly placed experts can make the most foolish statements and pronouncements.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53875410
So far I have not been able to ascertain the number of deaths of children caused directly by missing school but so far there have been at least 71 children admitted to intensive care units with covid 19 in the UK of which 5 have died.
The Diamond Princess was good natural experiment in that the ship passengers and crew were highly exposed before any mitigating measures were taken and then all of the population on the ship were tested.Just a thought to add to the confusion. I have four friends friends who have had Covid19. Two of them, a mother and daughter were in the same household where the daughter had caught the virus from a work colleague who actually died as a result of Covid19. Yet my mate Wyn, the father, had no symptoms at all. Did he have the virus and remain completely asymptomatic. Another one of the four had tested positive, yet his wife and two children showed no signs. The wife of the fourth person also showed no signs of the virus. So the virus seems to behave in a strange way, maybe some people are already immune? Who knows.
Maybe we should have the kids back in school , but not the teachers?I see that the latest report says that only 67 people got infected in schools in June in the Uk.
Guardian website 4h ago11:02
"England's schools had 67 Covid-19 cases in June, PHE report finds
A total of 67 coronavirus cases and 30 outbreaks were detected in schools across England in June, according to Public Health England.
The health agency on Sunday released the findings of a study into levels of coronavirus transmission in educational settings following their reopening on June 1.
It found that Covid-19 infections and outbreaks were “uncommon”. In June, the number of children attending any educational setting increased from 475,000 to more than 1.6 million.
The report adds that there is a strong correlation between the regional incidence of Covid-19 and the number of outbreaks in educational settings, which “emphasises the importance of controlling community transmission”.
The 67 cases occurred mainly in primary school and early years settings and were made up of 30 students and 37 staff.
No children were admitted to hospital, but one teacher was hospitalised and was admitted to intensive care for respiratory support.
Updated at 11.04am BST"
1) there was good social distancing possible, and only a third of the pupils in classrooms.
2) it was a hot June, with windows open, many classes held outside, and pupils only there for half a day or so at a time.
3) vulnerable people were still isolating, public transport sharing was very sparse, and most shops etc were still shut, with social contract rigorously reduced, including among family members.
Do these muppets not realise that having full classes in heated rooms with little or no ventilation is a different scenario? I do not believe their apparent stupidity is accidental. This is all about money, full stop. We, Jo Public, are collateral damage. What is more, they think we are so stupid we cannot reason or understand. The contempt for the average person, behind the policies and media stories, is palpable.
Thing is everyone has an agenda.. Government it's purely the economy. Professor Karol Sikora (mentioned in a post above), is an Oncologist so his agenda will clearly be his patients suffering with cancer so understandably he focuses on that and in many of his interviews seems quite dismissive of Covid as any real threat. So the problem is the top levels in the country aren't all pulling in the same direction.
Oh thank you I've always wanted one of those and now it seems I have one the miracles of modern technology.Yes, everyone has an agenda, and that includes everyone contributing to this thread.
my agenda is the safety of others and myself. Including the truth about what we are being told and highlighting the straw men and attempts at deflection, plus the illogical and shady 'facts and figures' being bandied about by meany.
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