And of course have built up precisely zero immunity.. if it ever gets a hold there (as it has been endemic here in the UK since late 2019) then they will be very seriously impacted indeed. See if Jacinda is quite so smug then..
That's right but NZ has likely limited their exposure to everything.Confused.com
I thought that things weren't so bad as suggested coz ~80% of us were already a bit immune due to other variants of the virus and that those that were dying, were just getting picked off because previous deaths were lower than could be normally expected and would be expected to peg it in the coming flu season.
Seems we were pretty sick in the frist place.....
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ing-data-britain-sick-man-europe-before-covid
15 per sq km rather than the UK's 275.
. . . . . . but they do have the advantage of being 2,500 miles from their nearest neighbour
Ah yes, it seems my figure of 2,500 miles is from the middle of NZ to the middle of Australia. I still think it is easier to isolate a relatively remote island.Wikipedia puts it at 1200 miles to Australia, still a considerable distance by our standards, but air travel, which NZ closed before lockdown, makes the distance between countries more of a level playing field.
Ah yes, it seems my figure of 2,500 miles is from the middle of NZ to the middle of Australia. I still think it is easier to isolate a relatively remote island.
I meant it would be easier to restrict travel in and out of the country if visitors have to fly in from some distance, rather than arrive on ferries, by rail or road, or even walk in the case of Northern Ireland.How so? Surely we all need the same basic resources, which need a minimum of interaction, irrespective of where you are.
Unless I've misunderstood you, which would be my fault.
How so? Surely we all need the same basic resources, which need a minimum of interaction, irrespective of where you are.
Unless I've misunderstood you, which would be my fault.
I still think it is easier to isolate a relatively remote island.
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They're going through tough times economically. New Zealand imports mainly vehicles (13 percent), nuclear reactors, boilers, machinery and mechanical appliances (13 percent), fuels (10 percent), electrical machinery and equipment (8 percent), plastics (4 percent) and aircraft, spacecraft (4 percent). New Zealand also imports processed and unprocessed food products like meat and dairy products, grains and seeds, seafood, eggs, chickens, fresh fruit and veg, poultry and wine and beverages. Quite a lot really.
Quite a lot like the UK then.
It would be interesting to see a critique of this podcast from health authorities in UK and Europe who are advocating the lockdowns, masks etc. that Ivor thinks are ineffective and unnecessary. Can it really be true that one Irish industrial chemist is correct and the WHO, The European centre for Disease Prevention and Control, The Robert Koch Institute, The Institut Pasteur, The London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and many more have all got it wrong?Not sure if this is the right Covid forum (if not please move). One of my favourite educators Ivor Cummins, gets fired up in response to being called out (anonymously). What is great about this response is that it is a phenomenal summary of the Covid pandemic with off the self facts. All so often the facts on many matters doesn't register or matter. I know there are facts and someone else's facts, but sometimes a fact like the sun rises everyday cannot be argued with (some somehow find a way):
I'll admit I didn't watch it through to the end. I find the repeated use of "that's a fact" without much support difficult to take. It just sounds a little smug and self congratulatory.Not sure if this is the right Covid forum (if not please move). One of my favourite educators Ivor Cummins, gets fired up in response to being called out (anonymously). What is great about this response is that it is a phenomenal summary of the Covid pandemic with off the self facts. All so often the facts on many matters doesn't register or matter. I know there are facts and someone else's facts, but sometimes a fact like the sun rises everyday cannot be argued with (some somehow find a way):
Some good points that I am not qualified to answer, but will try and give an opinion on. Your questions are the sort that in a studio with 30 seconds to answer would not be possible to reply to, in the same way that a higher cholesterol is not necessarily heart disease.It would be interesting to see a critique of this podcast from health authorities in UK and Europe who are advocating the lockdowns, masks etc. that Ivor thinks are ineffective and unnecessary. Can it really be true that one Irish industrial chemist is correct and the WHO, The European centre for Disease Prevention and Control, The Robert Koch Institute, The Institut Pasteur, The London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and many more have all got it wrong?
Hi @hankjam I respect your views, your comments years ago really helped me believe what was possible with diet only, for months when I was just reading and not a member your contributions were enormous - thanks.I'll admit I didn't watch it through to the end. I find the repeated use of "that's a fact" without much support difficult to take. It just sounds a little smug and self congratulatory.
It could me but not really a fan of YouTube presentations, prefer written docs with references supplied.
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