Long term safety studies have of course not been possible so...Why has Pfizer been granted legal immunity by the British government regards its covid vaccine.? mmmH.?
If all safety studies have been done there is no need.
Long term safety studies have of course not been possible so...
Plus it's usually a condition of most vaccine manufacturers.. same in the USA where theres a govt fund to pay for "vaccine damage" started in 1988 and ha so far paid out almost $4.5 bio.
People are being rushed to an early grave for my liking. Too many IMO.$4.5 billion is an awful lot of money.
Without doubt vaccines have saved countless millions of lives. But like all manufactured medicines they have side effects too. Sometimes these side-effects are not immediately apparent even in initial safety studies.
Am not anti-covid vaccine as such, or any vaccine for that matter but the covid vaccine is being rushed too much for my liking.
People are being rushed to an early grave for my liking. Too many IMO.
I do not mind if your liking means that you do not go for the jab, but please, please, PLEASE stop discouraging others.
You are conflating medicines with vaccines. They are not the same thing at all. Yes, this thread is peppered with examples of medicines that have been found to have adverse effects. I would say most medicines can have adverse effects as shown in the patient's leaflet in the pack. Also with studies that show long term effects long after the medicine has become common parlance.I am not discouraging people at all. I am merely pointing out the obvious.
"But like all manufactured medicines they have side effects too. Sometimes these side-effects are not immediately apparent even in initial safety studies."
Something like this ?You are conflating medicines with vaccines. They are not the same thing at all. Yes, this thread is peppered with examples of medicines that have been found to have adverse effects. I would say most medicines can have adverse effects as shown in the patient's leaflet in the pack. Also with studies that show long term effects long after the medicine has become common parlance.
Now tell me what vaccines have been shown to suffer from post-license issues that have meant they had to be withdrawn. Then we can talk about holding up the Covid vaccines.
Let me start that ball rolling
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/concerns-history.html
You are conflating medicines with vaccines. They are not the same thing at all. Yes, this thread is peppered with examples of medicines that have been found to have adverse effects. I would say most medicines can have adverse effects as shown in the patient's leaflet in the pack. Also with studies that show long term effects long after the medicine has become common parlance.
Now tell me what vaccines have been shown to suffer from post-license issues that have meant they had to be withdrawn. Then we can talk about holding up the Covid vaccines.
The MMR report in BMJ is only talking about the effect in children and is conjecture, Its a 'maybe happen'. The Covid vax has a lower age limit of 16 but will not be given to this group until the previous 9 tranches of patients have already been processed and monitored. The Oxford vaccine is undergoing a special trial expansion to specifically test the pediatric response and also I believe in pregnancy. The emergency license will exclude these groups if and when it is granted. This I suggest would provide more extensive data for trend analysis.Something like this ?
https://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2011/10/30/how-can-vaccines-cause-damage
and of course this..
https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/index.html
and this
https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment
The effect of eggs causing this reaction is common to all vaccines that use eggs for incubation. It is not the only vaccine to hit this well-documented reaction, and the covid vax centers are employing first responders and a chillout room specifically to protect against this being an issue. The problem is eggs, not the vaccine. All HCP's attending the vax process are receiving training for this.How about anaphylactic shock with flu vaccine.? I agree this is rare but its possibility does exist.
How about side effects which are not show up until the vaccine has been extensively use. I re-iterate that several years of safety research cannot be done in a couple of months. Why else would phizer get a blanket immunity against any litigation.?
Click on the link $4.5 bio has been paid out to 7,705 claimants.This is good to know but is not giving any examples where it has stepped in to pay compensation.
None of which have ever been released into the general population?They were also behind the fast reaction to MERS, Ebola, HNV1, and Zikka vaccines so there is some further large scale data on the basic vaccine.
The USA is a litigious society so that does not surprise me, The report that launched those claims was completed in 2004 which is what your link shows, The WHO did a follow-up series of research studies, and found no causal connection with the DTP vaccine.Click on the link $4.5 bio has been paid out to 7,705 claimants.
Before they became politicised and funded by Bill and Melinda Gates perhaps?used to be
I would not expect research data to be a public access item, but the data was presented and scrutinised when the vaccines were approved. I think we are getting more transparency with the Covid vaccine than any of the others,None of which have ever been released into the general population?
My reply to that would get me rusticated immediately, I will treat it with the contempt it deserves.Before they became politicised and funded by Bill and Melinda Gates perhaps?
politicised and funded by Bill and Melinda Gates
What is the thing about the Gates? I've never understood this......
Exactly that's why always refuse it.How do we know it's safe this year
What the truth.. what's wrong with that?My reply to that would get me rusticated immediately, I will treat it with the contempt it deserves.