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Current NHS dietary advice for diabetes.....

Discussion in 'Type 2 Diabetes' started by VMK, Sep 10, 2019.

  1. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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  2. Jim Lahey

    Jim Lahey I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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  3. TriciaWs

    TriciaWs Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    I would be concerned about his heart health as it is still an extra risk with an HbA1C of 44. Also there is some evidence that diabetic complications can occur while within the prediabetic range. Surely some additional diet changes would be safer?
     
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  4. KK123

    KK123 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Tricia, I think we need to keep things in perspective here. I know it's all about risk and perception etc but I for one would NOT be overly concerned about 'heart health' if my h1ac was 44, I was pre diabetic and mostly living how I wanted and healthily. In my humble opinion there is too much scaremongering going on simply because someone isn't practically keto.
     
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  5. Resurgam

    Resurgam Type 2 (in remission!) · Expert

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    My Hba1c is stubbornly at the top of normal - but I know that I am not spiking after meals - I suspect that after decades of being unable to cope with carbs and periods of high carb diets with low fat thrown in my metabolism is skewed permanently.
    The lack of spikes is good news, to my way of thinking, and I would be a little more agitated if I was seeing BG in the teens - or even much above 8mmol/l.
     
  6. VMK

    VMK · Well-Known Member

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    I am amazed how different ways of eating affect us all differently. I’m certainly not able to tolerate many carbs and am trying to keep below 50g per day but it’s not easy....
     
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    VMK · Well-Known Member

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  8. Jim Lahey

    Jim Lahey I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Incredulous eh? The recommendation for preventing impaired glucose tolerance from escalating is to eat more and more glucose. Sigh...
     
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  9. Flora123

    Flora123 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Possibly. It was written in an ambiguous way...
     
  10. Robbity

    Robbity Type 2 · Expert

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    Steak over bacon any day! o_O
     
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  11. Jim Lahey

    Jim Lahey I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I prefer the bacon on top myself, but each to their own :hungry:
     
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  12. Marie 2

    Marie 2 LADA · Well-Known Member

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    @lucylocket61 I didn't say it would work for everyone, I said it worked on my husband and I said everyone can vary. What works for one person obviously doesn't always work on the next. I just want it known that everyone doesn't automatically have to eat low carb. There are other choices out there that can work.

    Add: He is in complete good health and does not take anything else other than metformin and some vitamins. No blood pressure issues, no cholesterol problems etc.
     
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  13. Tophat1900

    Tophat1900 Type 3c · Well-Known Member

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    I think this is part of the reason for the unrelenting surge in obesity and T2DM, the other part is or at least one part is people's inability to stop eating garbage and not knowing any better about harmful foods i.e, processed food which is everything from Mars bars to Pepsi, high sugar cereals aimed at kids and a whole lot more. Processed food is highly addictive and marketed everywhere, usually as good time fun snack or energy boost and kids are a prime target. Young adults pictured drinking and eating nothing but glucose and everyone is healthy, slim looking and happy. How many times do we see a sports star's measure of success being used to sell some sugar loaded drink, cereal or whatever it may be? Small kids being lured to bug their parents because of toys in cereal boxes etc. It's disgusting imo, but the deceit rolls on.
     
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  14. Diawara

    Diawara Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    look at any news footage from the sixties and seventies .. nearly everyone was slim no obesity ,when i left school in 1972 i had been used to three meals a day and the occasional treat of boiled sweets ..got my first wages and it was about the time canned carbonated drinks and walkers crisps became the norm ,,pasties and pies mars bars etc. all available from the works canteen on site then maccy dees, kentucky, pizzas chinese takeaways and processed ready meals..slowly but surely we were sucked into it..as you say garbage...
     
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  15. mojo37

    mojo37 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree
     
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    nomoredonuts Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    I think I might struggle to up my intake to 6/8 glasses a day. But I'll give it a shot...
     
  17. Norfolkmell

    Norfolkmell Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    And the Daily Mail today in its wellness pull out written by two doctors suggested T2's should eat grains and whole meal bread, it went straight into the recycling!:banghead:
     
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    Valsal · Newbie

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    I'm confused... Been told to cut right down on starch carbs like potatoes, bread, pasta!!! I'm losing weight as a result. Weight that I really, really could do without losing.
     
  19. Marie 2

    Marie 2 LADA · Well-Known Member

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    @Valsal are you a type 1 or type 2?
     
  20. Norfolkmell

    Norfolkmell Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    You obviously had a sensible doctor/dietitian then. LCHF is the way to go but if you're still losing weigh and don't need or want to perhaps upping your carbs a tad would get you on a even keel. How many carbs are you having a day? I have between 50 and 80 and am still losing weight three years on from diagnosis and as I've still got more to lose I'm happy with that and so is my GP. But I would imagine that I would tweak the carbs when I got down to a healthy weight again. I could be wrong but that as I reduced carbs when I joined the club and started losing weight it sounds reasonable to tweak when you get to where you want to be. Obviously everyone is different and reacts to carbs in individual ways and what works for one wouldn't necessarily work for someone else. Hope I haven't confused you.
     
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