For some time now I've been noticing lots of people on the site mentioning thyroid issues, and so now I am wondering if there is a definite connection between having Diabetes and also having Thyroid problems?
If so, then is it that Diabetics are more prone to developing this, or is it the other way around?
My thyroid packed up long ago - but I have always had problems with carbs.
Now that I have been eating low carb and having consistently low glucose levels for almost 5 years my need for Thyroxine has reduced - I took 200 micrograms daily for at least a decade, and now I am down to 125.
No, not at all - I was always very active and energetic and went in for caving, sailing, hill walking, swimming, cycling and could never pass the activity equipment in the local park without swinging across the horizontal ladder - just to see if I could still do it. When I was working I was always surprised at how quickly people ran out of energy. I was diagnosed with a failed thyroid after complaining of things not being right for some time, and then my doses were gradually increased. The level of thyroid stimulating hormone was four thousand times higher than normal at first and although the GP tried to leave me on a lower dose the TSH remained high until I was put on the 2 x 100 microgram tablets.Didn't 200 micrograms of thyroxine make you nervous Resurgam? I take 0.112 to balance a med interaction, and I have found that Synthroid can make me hyperactive or lethargic if lowered to 100 for example.
Thanks for the link @EllieM at glance it seems some answers to my questions are in there but I can’t quite get through my brain fog at the moment to pick out what I want! Will definitely return to it when I feel better.I think it may be a bit of both, because they are both malfunctions of the endocrine system.
Interesting article here (well, the first half is, my eyes started to glaze over half way through and I skipped to the conclusion)
Thyroid Disorders and Diabetes Mellitus - PMC (nih.gov)
As a T1 I'm at high risk, apparently, which is probably why I see a thyroid test on my annual diabetic review quite often.
Thank you for that @EllieM and I will read it later. xI think it may be a bit of both, because they are both malfunctions of the endocrine system.
Interesting article here (well, the first half is, my eyes started to glaze over half way through and I skipped to the conclusion)
Thyroid Disorders and Diabetes Mellitus - PMC (nih.gov)
As a T1 I'm at high risk, apparently, which is probably why I see a thyroid test on my annual diabetic review quite often.
This is all really interesting to read @Dandelade and I'm very glad that I asked. I do like to try to learn as much as I can about other complications for we diabetics xHi Coby, fairly new to both but I’ve done lots of reading. Yes as said it’s thought one can lead to the other.
When I look back and think of symptoms it was definitely the hypothyroid that started first, then insulin resistance, which I think made the thyroid worse recently.
In my quest to find out the science why in my case;
1. thyroid gland attacked by the immune system as seen with high antibodies.
2. levels of thyroid hormones (t4/3) reduce due to this - I know simplistic loads of other stuff actually going on
2. Thyroid stimulating hormone TSH increases because the levels t4 have dropped
3. High TSH causes insulin resistance at the peripheral tissues - by some mechanism I don’t quite understand yet.
4. High insulin causes lowered thyroid hormones by some unknown mechanism.
It might be the other way round for others nobody knows for sure!
I’m not quite sure how much is gaps in my k owl edge and how much is that it is generally unknown! Would love someone to come along and explain more...
Thanks Coby, I totally agree. Learning from and supporting each other has been such a powerful tool, I e taken a lot of comfort from others such as yourselves. Especially since the answers are usually in science heavy journal articles, like we aren’t stupid and I want to know more than surface level information, but it’s not quite accessible it seems?...This is all really interesting to read @Dandelade and I'm very glad that I asked. I do like to try to learn as much as I can about other complications for we diabetics x
No, not at all - I was always very active and energetic and went in for caving, sailing, hill walking, swimming, cycling and could never pass the activity equipment in the local park without swinging across the horizontal ladder - just to see if I could still do it. When I was working I was always surprised at how quickly people ran out of energy. I was diagnosed with a failed thyroid after complaining of things not being right for some time, and then my doses were gradually increased. The level of thyroid stimulating hormone was four thousand times higher than normal at first and although the GP tried to leave me on a lower dose the TSH remained high until I was put on the 2 x 100 microgram tablets.
If so then it runs in the family.That sounds like possibly hyperthyroidism to me; but if you are young and healthy your body can "take" it.
That sounds like possibly hyperthyroidism to me; but if you are young and healthy your body can "take" it.
Thanks Coby, I totally agree. Learning from and supporting each other has been such a powerful tool, I e taken a lot of comfort from others such as yourselves. Especially since the answers are usually in science heavy journal articles, like we aren’t stupid and I want to know more than surface level information, but it’s not quite accessible it seems?...
Thank @AndBreathe ill check it out. I hope you work out your challenges too!Dandelade, if you want to learn about thyroid disorders, or indeed more about your own thyroid related challenges, I suggest you join Health Unlocked's Thyroid UK section. It is a specialist forum for peer support for those living with thyroid conditions. When I was diagnosed they helped me work my way through the maze of information and helped me understand what might be going on for me.
I am still not at the bottom of my challenges. I'd like to understand why I need hefty levels of replacement hormones (hefty relating to my size and volume). It is likely I have some form of chronic malabsorption, meaning I'm not necessarily getting the best bang from my hormone replacement buck.
https://healthunlocked.com/thyroiduk/posts
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