Diabetes Type 2

Debsy3

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Just been told I have type 2 the doctors put me on
Metformin I thought she would have tried diet first, I see you can have side affects anyone got any Advise
 

Morgaine

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Re: Diabetis Type 2

Hello Debsy3. I'm a bit surprised no one has answered you yet. I'm not an expert by any means, but here goes. I was diagnosed type2 last September and put on Metformin. I felt strange at first a bit disconnected and spaced out. I also had diarrhea (can't spell it!) and went back to my nurse. She put me on Metformin SR (slow release) which has been much better for me. If you think it's not suiting you then go back and talk to your diabetic nurse. Good luck :)
 

daisy1

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Re: Diabetis Type 2

Hi Debsy and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members which should help you to get good control of your diabetes. Metformin can give you stomach cramps, especially if it is not taken during your meal. Sometimes the cramps will subside after a few weeks, and if not, as Morgaine says, you can ask for the SR (slow release) version. I have no side effects and take the ordinary Metformin.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS


Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 

mrawfell

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Re: Diabetis Type 2

I also had gut problems with metformin. Excessive wind and constipation. ( I did see someone refer to it as metfarting on this web site.)
I tried galvus but although my daily BG levels were OK my HbA1c went up. So I tried metformin slow release, once a day, and taken with my evening meal. Again seen on this web site. Works no problem and my HbA1c is OK again.
Worth a try
 

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Re: Diabetis Type 2

hello debbsy3, I have also just been diagnosed and put on metformin. Still struggling to get my head around this. i asked for the glucose monmitor to give me better control of this condition and GP refused as I was not at risk of Hypoglycemia. This of course was a telphone consutation as you just can't get and appointment anymore. He also suggested I lose weight. Clearly he has not met me before as I am not overwieght and never have been. Anyway I bought one myself and sugar level still between 9 and 12 fasting. Don't know what if i have a problem with the test strips as the last two readings have came up up E-4. Any advice?
Kanebo
 

carty

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I think the E4 error is not enough blood on the strip but you need to check in the hand book that came with your meter
CAROL
 

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kanebo said:
hello debbsy3, I have also just been diagnosed and put on metformin. Still struggling to get my head around this. i asked for the glucose monmitor to give me better control of this condition and GP refused as I was not at risk of Hypoglycemia. This of course was a telphone consutation as you just can't get and appointment anymore. He also suggested I lose weight. Clearly he has not met me before as I am not overwieght and never have been. Anyway I bought one myself and sugar level still between 9 and 12 fasting. Don't know what if i have a problem with the test strips as the last two readings have came up up E-4. Any advice?
Kanebo

Hi and well done on getting a meter for yourself. it's a vital tool in getting control.
Your "E4" is an error message - your booklet for the meter should tell you what it means. it could be you didn't get enough blood from the puncture to get a proper reading.
Your fasting readings are probably right - it takes a while to get the fasting readings under control, and yours aren't unusual. If I was you, i wouldn't bother doing fasting readings at the moment. use your precious strips (they ain't cheap!) to take readings 2 hours after eating. if your reading isn't below 8.5 (NHS recommended level) at that stage, you've eaten too many carbs in the meal so have less the next time and test again. Once you get regularly below 8.5, most of us set ourselves lower targets; 7.8 is a common one for reasons I won't bore you with at this stage.
You need to do this with the various different meals you eat at breakfast, lunch and dinner so you can work out what you can and can't eat, and how much of it.
Good luck.
 

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kanebo said:
hello debbsy3, I have also just been diagnosed and put on metformin. Still struggling to get my head around this. i asked for the glucose monmitor to give me better control of this condition and GP refused as I was not at risk of Hypoglycemia. This of course was a telphone consutation as you just can't get and appointment anymore. He also suggested I lose weight. Clearly he has not met me before as I am not overwieght and never have been. Anyway I bought one myself and sugar level still between 9 and 12 fasting. Don't know what if i have a problem with the test strips as the last two readings have came up up E-4. Any advice?
Kanebo

Kanebo can I be so bold as to ask how old you are? I notice you say you are not overweight. If your gp didn't diagnose you who did? Did your doctor do a urine test for Ketones? There is a small chance that like some people on the forum you have been misdiagnosed as Type 2 when in reality you may be what's called LADA or Type 1.5. It is normally misdiagnosed in adults who are not overweight and it confuses some gp's. There are specific tests for LADA that can be performed. Without wishing to sound rude even if you are a bit overweight the T2 diagnosis is usually correct.

Take care
 

Jodie24

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Hi. I'm Jodie and a final year student at University! I am currently undergoing research into type 2 diabetes and the effect of nutrition! I have put together a short questionnaire which I am trying to find type 2 diabetics to fill in for my project! It would be a huge help. Thank you
 

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Jodie24 said:
Hi. I'm Jodie and a final year student at University! I am currently undergoing research into type 2 diabetes and the effect of nutrition! I have put together a short questionnaire which I am trying to find type 2 diabetics to fill in for my project! It would be a huge help. Thank you

I'm willing to help Jodie. :)
 

brockbhoy

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hi, new member so go easy lol

was diagnosed bout 7 weeks ago(type 2) n have tried to change my diet, it's hard when you have a sweet tooth.

was at dietician last week and she said lowering carb intake isn't neccesary as long as its the right sort of carbs: wholegrain

but most other diabetics have said to only have a small amount of wholegrain carbs.

what do you guys think?
 

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brockbhoy said:
hi, new member so go easy lol

was diagnosed bout 7 weeks ago(type 2) n have tried to change my diet, it's hard when you have a sweet tooth.

was at dietician last week and she said lowering carb intake isn't neccesary as long as its the right sort of carbs: wholegrain

but most other diabetics have said to only have a small amount of wholegrain carbs.

what do you guys think?


I think and eat this - http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf :D
 

brockbhoy

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GraceK said:
brockbhoy said:
hi, new member so go easy lol

was diagnosed bout 7 weeks ago(type 2) n have tried to change my diet, it's hard when you have a sweet tooth.

was at dietician last week and she said lowering carb intake isn't neccesary as long as its the right sort of carbs: wholegrain

but most other diabetics have said to only have a small amount of wholegrain carbs.

what do you guys think?


I think and eat this - http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf :D
thanks, would this still b ok if u are on meds for cholestorol?
 

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brockbhoy said:
GraceK said:
brockbhoy said:
hi, new member so go easy lol

was diagnosed bout 7 weeks ago(type 2) n have tried to change my diet, it's hard when you have a sweet tooth.

was at dietician last week and she said lowering carb intake isn't neccesary as long as its the right sort of carbs: wholegrain

but most other diabetics have said to only have a small amount of wholegrain carbs.

what do you guys think?


I think and eat this - http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf :D
thanks, would this still b ok if u are on meds for cholestorol?

I'm on Metformin SR 2000mg a day, and lots of other people who follow the LCHF are on a lot more meds than that Brock. For me, I don't think of it as 'a diet', I think of it as a menu choice and it suits me very well and leaving out the REFINED CARBS in my diet has in my own estimation, benefited my depression by 90%, my asthma by 70%, my gastritis by 80% and my tummy has never been so calm and content and satisfied in ALL MY LIFE. I've been eating the wrong foods FOR ME all my life and there's NO WAY I'd go back to eating carbs again. Oh and of course, my blood sugar is down by a good 7 points!!!

Best thing to do is give LCHF a go for a couple of weeks, don't think of it as a 'forever' thing, but just an experiment for two weeks and see how you FEEL. All I know is I FEEL so much better in lots of ways and would never go back to how I ate before.

You know the Western culture, particularly the UK is the only culture that puts the food on the individual's plate FOR THE INDIVIDUAL. Most other countries put the dishes on the table and everyone helps themselves to THE FOODS THEY FEEL THEY WANT, NEED AND LIKE. That's the sensible way to eat, because our needs differ on a daily basis. The Chinese banquet for example allows everyone to choose from an array of foods and the concept is that THE WHOLE GROUP will eat a healthy balance and work better as a GROUP. Very, very intelligent way of eating.

For me, LCHF allows me to CHOOSE what I want to leave out - and that's REFINED CARBS - I get carbs, but I get them from things like butterbeans, veggies, fruit and it's PLENTY ENOUGH. :D :thumbup: