Thank you all - really helpful advice.@Fleegle
Hello Fleegle and welcome to the ForumAs mentioned above, here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful, in addition to the replies you have received so far. Ask more questions when you need to and someone will help.
BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS
Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.
A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.
On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.
The role of carbohydrate
Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.
If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.
The bad news
Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.
The good news
People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.
Controlling your carbs
The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
Reduce your carbohydrates
- Reduce your carbohydrate intake
- Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.
The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.
Choosing better carbohydrates
The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.
Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.
Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.
Eating what works for you
Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.
To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.
The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:
Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
- Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
- Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.
- Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
- structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
- self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education
Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.
You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.
Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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welcome here FleegleI went to the DRs today to collect my blood test results. I was sure I had Type 2 before I got there given I had sugar in my urine at my annual health check a few weeks before. It was confirmed and at 95 a high start!.
In the time between my urine sample and my blood test result, three weeks, I have already started the LCHF diet to some degree and any help on resources for that would be welcomed.
I think I had a reasonably forward thinking DR. He did not want me to go on medication but to see how diet could help - I am about three stones over weight. He was concerned about my Cholesterol and prescribed some satins to try and get that down from 6.2 to below 5. He was supportive of low carbs and felt that weight loss in any form would be the first best start.
He said that in order for him was to reduce weight which would have an impact on everything else, then the likelihood of stroke and heart attack then reduce sugar over time.
Good advice?
welcome here Fleegle
well done allready doing low carb, that is what really works... concerning statins well.... they are maybe not as healthy as claimed.. your cholesterol is not higher than mine were at diagnosis, and my GP was angry with me for not wanting to take statins.. really angry actually, but in 3 month I got my cholesterol down just by eating lower carb and low calorie well not much fat in that period, which I eat now .. I found that it is actually the high carb that raises my cholesterol and not what fats I eat ... I tend to eat more of the healthier fat (claimed healthy) like always roast in virgin olive oil , or coconut oil and I eat lots and lots of nuts mostly macadamia, valnuts and peanuts , I did eat a lot of brazil nuts but that particular nut is so filled with selenium which can lead to a selenium poisoning if one eat more than 3 on a daily basis... they are healthy but only in smaller amounts. Selenium is beneficial in preventing cancer actually so everything in the right amounts...
please take care to vary your foods even when you go low carbs, berries are also a fine choice in smaller daily amounts insead of the much more high spiking fruits like bananas , watermelons and mango and orange juice which is best to avoid in general ..
orange juice is about the worst... so save it for your birthday and christmas...Thanks - again great advice from everyone. What a shame about fruit - I love orange juice as well...
I went to the DRs today to collect my blood test results. I was sure I had Type 2 before I got there given I had sugar in my urine at my annual health check a few weeks before. It was confirmed and at 95 a high start!.
In the time between my urine sample and my blood test result, three weeks, I have already started the LCHF diet to some degree and any help on resources for that would be welcomed.
I think I had a reasonably forward thinking DR. He did not want me to go on medication but to see how diet could help - I am about three stones over weight. He was concerned about my Cholesterol and prescribed some satins to try and get that down from 6.2 to below 5. He was supportive of low carbs and felt that weight loss in any form would be the first best start.
He said that in order for him was to reduce weight which would have an impact on everything else, then the likelihood of stroke and heart attack then reduce sugar over time.
Good advice?
Were I in your position I would read up on statins and cholesterol and see if you really want to artificially lower your levels. For females they have been shown to be fairly ineffective against CVD and higher levels of cholesterol have been shown to be beneficial to overall health.. might be worth some research.Hi im newly diagnosed to , my doctor did same diet only at first, but after 3 months now on medication, i also am on statin and it is working my cholesterol has dropped alot , you might ache for a few days at begining of taking statin it will soon go ,i have had same advice loose weight it will all help with diabetes . good luck on your weight loss
My Hba1c rose from 48 to 54 when I took statins. I came off them due to other side affects and my Hba1c dropped to 36 so, in my experience, statins do raise bs levels.It would be good to know more detail if you wanted to share on your first three months.
The confusion I have on satins is that they now come with a warning that they raise blood sugar which is not ideal when you are trying so hard to lower it.
Would love to hear people's experiences of that.
Dean.
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