Disaster discovery diabetes T2.

ArthurD

Newbie
Messages
1
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hello.
I am looking for testimonies and advice.
I'm 45 years old, after my former doctor retired I was not followed up for 5 years. Now I have a new doctor and at the beginning of the week I had a complete check-up and as I expected it was a disaster! Fasting blood sugar, 2.8g and glycated hemoglobin at 11 !
I have an appointment with a diabetic at the end of next week, in the meantime I am on metformin 1000 twice a day.
I don't know where I stand anymore, especially since I have a phobia of the medical environment. My doctor doesn't want me to check my blood sugar every day, what do you think? What should I do in terms of sports and diet? He just told me to try to walk a little more and to reduce the sugars.
 
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Bludnok

Active Member
Messages
30
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Intrigued as to why your doctor doesn’t want you tracking blood sugars, as this is the simplest way to see what’s going on with your own body.

Reduce carbs and sugar - ‘below ground’ veg also (e.g. potatoes). A walk after eating can reduce the impact of a spike, particular after dinner as the effect will be felt overnight too (in my experience - much better numbers).

That’s a good start - meanwhile do lots of your own reading on this forum and elsewhere so you’re armed with questions and a bit of ready knowledge for your diabetic clinic. That should reduce the stress a bit too!
 

CatsFive

Well-Known Member
Messages
364
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Hello.
I am looking for testimonies and advice.
I'm 45 years old, after my former doctor retired I was not followed up for 5 years. Now I have a new doctor and at the beginning of the week I had a complete check-up and as I expected it was a disaster! Fasting blood sugar, 2.8g and glycated hemoglobin at 11 !
I have an appointment with a diabetic at the end of next week, in the meantime I am on metformin 1000 twice a day.
I don't know where I stand anymore, especially since I have a phobia of the medical environment. My doctor doesn't want me to check my blood sugar every day, what do you think? What should I do in terms of sports and diet? He just told me to try to walk a little more and to reduce the sugars.

Yes to sports, any sport you enjoy. And yes to walking and cycling, both of which you can hopefully do from your front door.

No to sugar, sugary foods and carbohydrates - rice, pasta, potatoes, bread and so on. Yes to studying labels on packets...

I take it the 11 is an HbA1c of 11%. If it is, that's 97 in mmol/mol which is the normal UK units. Lots of people here have started there and higher, and got levels down to pre-diabetic or even normal. However we are still diabetic - if we revert to their previous eating patterns our HbA1c will start going up.

You should get a diabetic eye scan pronto. I got an appointment within a few weeks of diagnosis. And unfortunately it felt like I was in & out of the doctors at that time, as it turned out I also had high blood pressure (both were chance findings) and they keep an eye on one's bloods etc. while sorting out the right medication. It took 5 goes for me to get a combination which sorted the BP without giving me either a cough or swollen ankles.

Sadly I've no idea how to help about the phobia. But it might be worth mentioning to your health care team as you do need them.
 

Daphne917

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,338
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Hello.
I am looking for testimonies and advice.
I'm 45 years old, after my former doctor retired I was not followed up for 5 years. Now I have a new doctor and at the beginning of the week I had a complete check-up and as I expected it was a disaster! Fasting blood sugar, 2.8g and glycated hemoglobin at 11 !
I have an appointment with a diabetic at the end of next week, in the meantime I am on metformin 1000 twice a day.
I don't know where I stand anymore, especially since I have a phobia of the medical environment. My doctor doesn't want me to check my blood sugar every day, what do you think? What should I do in terms of sports and diet? He just told me to try to walk a little more and to reduce the sugars.
Unfortunately that seems to be the response from many in the medical profession re testing. However by testing you can see what you eat affects your BS and what foods you can eat, avoid or have in moderation. I was diagnosed in 2012 and have maintained a normal hba1c for approx 10 years by finding out how different foods affect me. I still test my BS every so often if I’ve had a particularly ‘carby’ day and my FBS about 3 to 4 times per week. I’m not into exercise but go for a walk 3-4 times a week, use my indoor trampoline whilst watching TV and spend a lot of time gardening as we have quite a big garden!
 

LouisLane

Member
Messages
17
Type of diabetes
Prefer not to say
Treatment type
Other
Yes to sports, any sport you enjoy. And yes to walking and cycling, both of which you can hopefully do from your front door.

No to sugar, sugary foods and carbohydrates - rice, pasta, potatoes, bread and so on. Yes to studying labels on packets...

I take it the 11 is an HbA1c of 11%. If it is, that's 97 in mmol/mol which is the normal UK units. Lots of people here have started there and higher, and got levels down to pre-diabetic or even normal. However we are still diabetic - if we revert to their previous eating patterns our HbA1c will start going up.

You should get a diabetic eye scan pronto. I got an appointment within a few weeks of diagnosis. And unfortunately it felt like I was in & out of the doctors at that time, as it turned out I also had high blood pressure (both were chance findings) and they keep an eye on one's bloods etc. while sorting out the right medication. It took 5 goes for me to get a combination which sorted the BP without giving me either a cough or swollen ankles.

Sadly I've no idea how to help about the phobia. But it might be worth mentioning to your health care team as you do need them.
if you cut out carbs such as brown rice and seeded whole meal bread and veg like carrots and most veg contains carbs including tomatoes..What actually can you eat apart from lettuce and cucunmer❓
 

LouisLane

Member
Messages
17
Type of diabetes
Prefer not to say
Treatment type
Other
Unfortunately that seems to be the response from many in the medical profession re testing. However by testing you can see what you eat affects your BS and what foods you can eat, avoid or have in moderation. I was diagnosed in 2012 and have maintained a normal hba1c for approx 10 years by finding out how different foods affect me. I still test my BS every so often if I’ve had a particularly ‘carby’ day and my FBS about 3 to 4 times per week. I’m not into exercise but go for a walk 3-4 times a week, use my indoor trampoline whilst watching TV and spend a lot of time gardening as we have quite a big garden!
so that's great but unfortunately some of our sugar levels are high when eating 0 as the liver produces sugar when it feels like it
 

KennyA

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Staff Member
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3,877
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Hello.
I am looking for testimonies and advice.
I'm 45 years old, after my former doctor retired I was not followed up for 5 years. Now I have a new doctor and at the beginning of the week I had a complete check-up and as I expected it was a disaster! Fasting blood sugar, 2.8g and glycated hemoglobin at 11 !
I have an appointment with a diabetic at the end of next week, in the meantime I am on metformin 1000 twice a day.
I don't know where I stand anymore, especially since I have a phobia of the medical environment. My doctor doesn't want me to check my blood sugar every day, what do you think? What should I do in terms of sports and diet? He just told me to try to walk a little more and to reduce the sugars.
Hi Arthur D and welcome to the forums.

I'm assuming from your info that you're being tested by the French healthcare system - which I know very little about in terms of how it normally deals with T2 diabetes. With the NHS I can be fairly sure about what it should do - even if the reality sometimes doesn't match.

As T2 diabetics by definition we have problems dealing with levels of glucose in the body. This is because (usually) we are insulin resistant - we have plenty of it but it's not doing the job it should be, which is to get glucose into the muscle cells for energy. Instead the glucose hangs around in the bloodstream and is eventually converted to bodyfat.

Carbohydrate when digested is converted to glucose. Fats and proteins aren't. It follows therefore that if you want to reduce glucose in your system the first thing to do is to cut it off at source - stop eating (so many) carbohydrates. For me this means no potatoes or other root vegetables, no bread or other flour based items like pastry or pasta, no rice, no sugar, very little fruit (a few berries from time to time), no beer. Instead I go for meats, fish, dairy (cheese, cream and butter) , green veg, wine and spirits. All of these are zero or very low carb. I have found through testing that I can cope pretty well with beans - cannellini, haricot, that sort of thing, despite their carb content. I aim for around 20g carb a day which mainly comes from veg.

It works for me - BGs normal very quickly, weight loss followed, diabetes symptoms vanished, feel so much fitter. In remission now and haven't had a "diabetic" HbA1c since January 2020. Started playing football again last year, really enjoying exercise now rather than dreading the next injury from trying to cope with the additional weight carried.

I would strongly recommend testing using a finger prick glucometer before and two hours after eating. That shows you clearly the impact of the food eaten on your system. Everyone who eats carb will experience a BG rise - that's the carb being digested glucose and passed into the bloodstream. For T2's the rise will be higher and stay around longer than for people with normal insulin sensitivity - basically their insulin deals with the glucose more quickly and effectively. It's high glucose levels over time that can cause damage to nerves and to capilliaries - best avoided. The meter will show you which foods do what, and you can make an informed decision about whether and how much of them to eat.

best of luck. This forum is a great resource and helps me enormously.
 

CatsFive

Well-Known Member
Messages
364
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
if you cut out carbs such as brown rice and seeded whole meal bread and veg like carrots and most veg contains carbs including tomatoes..What actually can you eat apart from lettuce and cucunmer❓

The amount of carbs in things like rice, bread & pasta is way more than in most vegetables. Eating a zero-carb diet, if possible, would be very tricky. However considerably lowering your intake of them by reducing or eliminating potatos, bread, pasta, cereals, etc. can over time make a vast difference to your HbA1c
 

MrsA2

Expert
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6,761
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
A low carb diet consists of meat, fish, eggs, dairy, nuts, seeds, olives, veg that grow above ground (except sweetcorn) and berries

However not being sure which type of diabetes @LouisLane has, should also mention that T1s can eat carbs, they just have to calculate the amount of insulin to take
 

Resurgam

Master
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10,086
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
if you cut out carbs such as brown rice and seeded whole meal bread and veg like carrots and most veg contains carbs including tomatoes..What actually can you eat apart from lettuce and cucunmer❓
Generally sticking to foods which are around 10% carbs or less will enable a type 2 to stay in fairly normal numbers after meals - along with proteins and fats mushrooms, stir fry, salad stuff and low carb veges with herbs and spices of all kinds make a good nutritious diet.