DIY face masks & info on wearing masks effectively...

[lindisfel]

do you have a link?

I have if I could paste with my phone.
Afraid I will have to use a pc tomorrow.

It was a recent NCBI article on aerosol transmission of covid.
200 scientist from all over world took 7 months to produce the paper.
Perhaps there is enough there to google the pubmed?
Regards
Derek

 

[Brunneria]

Thanks I had a google.

was it one of these?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7263217/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7293495/

 

[lindisfel]

I have if I could paste with my phone.
Afraid I will have to use a pc tomorrow.
D.

Thanks I had a google.

was it one of these?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7263217/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7293495/

Yes it was the last one. Thanks.
It was being discussed on the BBC world service in the night so its going to be highlighted.
Derek

 

[lindisfel]

Yes it was the last one. Thanks.
It was being discussed on the BBC world service in the night so its going to be highlighted.
Derek

There is also another NCBI by two scientists. Morawska and Cao.

Its on the world having to face the reality of covid 19.

 

[NicoleC1971]

You should see my previous post as to why that analogy isn't accurate. That exact phrase is quoted...

Saw the surgeon's opinion just after I posted it! i am aware that correctly worn masks may be effective but my opinion remains that most people will not be wearing the right masks and properly fitted. And more fundamentally that muzzling the healthy is a terrible over reaction.

 

[Robinredbreast]

I wore face masks today, as I was in a vehicle with a driver and a child, I am on a school run escorting the child in a 9 seater vehicle. The driver wore two face masks, a paper one and a dust mask over that, plus gloves, he is retired and probably around 70 years old..
I feel I am fit and healthy, but if it means wearing one, then I will do it, but I haven't been advised or told by the county council transport team to wear one.
ps I sneezed twice in the vehicle today

 

[lindisfel]

Saw the surgeon's opinion just after I posted it! i am aware that correctly worn masks may be effective but my opinion remains that most people will not be wearing the right masks and properly fitted. And more fundamentally that muzzling the healthy is a terrible over reaction.

How do you know your healthy or anyone else is?
The pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic can pass virus on but they can feel perfectly well but they may unwittingly kill others.
D.

 

[Fairygodmother]

@NicoleC1971, why do you dislike being asked to wear a mask? I’m not asking because I want an argument, I’m just really interested to know.
I confess I’ve tended to have a knee-jerk reaction in past posts, and I realise that a discussion would be nicer.

 

[stu60]

I have noticed on TV that many doctors and nurses wear a surgical mask on top of their FP3 mask. Does anyone know why?

I think it is because the FP3 masks have an exhaust valve or most of the better ones do to improve air flow as they are designed to protect the wearer, so they wear a surgical mask over the top to stop them spreading anything as per normal.

 

[Fairygodmother]

I think it is because the FP3 masks have an exhaust valve or most of the better ones do to improve air flow as they are designed to protect the wearer, so they wear a surgical mask over the top to stop them spreading anything as per normal.

Our GP neighbour wears a disposable mask over the FP3 mask so that she can throw away the disposable one after each consultation: it makes the expensive one last longer. She recommended we do the same.

 

[Mr_Pot]

@NicoleC1971, why do you dislike being asked to wear a mask? I’m not asking because I want an argument, I’m just really interested to know.
I confess I’ve tended to have a knee-jerk reaction in past posts, and I realise that a discussion would be nicer.

I can't answer for @NicoleC1971 but on the rare occasions I have had to wear a mask, the pleated paper type, I have found it most unpleasant. A slight feeling of suffocation and my glasses steam up so I can't see properly. It probably gets easier with practice.

 

[Pipp]

Hearing impaired, so anyone wearing a mask / face covering makes it difficult for me to be able to understand what they are saying.
However, I appreciate they are providing some protection to others by wearing one, as long as it is worn correctly. So, when I re-enter the world of social interaction with others outside my immediate household, I will reciprocate by wearing a face covering myself. I will, if struggling to communicate, use my phone to text message, and hope others will be patient, and do the same.

 

[Lizzie2]

Apparently, if you were to scale everything up so that this virus were the size of a coin, the holes between the fibres in cloth masks like these would be eight feet in diameter. Make of that what you will...

Well, that’s a cheery thought for the day

 

[carolmcewan]

Has anyone seen these re-usable masks - they protect YOU as well as other people? Yay!
It won't let me paste the website link here but if you search on the web or Facebook for
BREATHE HAPPY mask you'll find it. (website is breath 'dash' happy dot com) And they filter out more than a home-made/fabric mask. Sounds good to me...

I've ordered one for my Mother in Law and thinking of ordering one for myself now too (I'm T1)
The mask is soft washable silicone and you swap out a filter in the end which lasts7 days I believe

 

[milesrf]

Hearing impaired, so anyone wearing a mask / face covering makes it difficult for me to be able to understand what they are saying.
However, I appreciate they are providing some protection to others by wearing one, as long as it is worn correctly. So, when I re-enter the world of social interaction with others outside my immediate household, I will reciprocate by wearing a face covering myself. I will, if struggling to communicate, use my phone to text message, and hope others will be patient, and do the same.

At least here in the US, some masks are available with transparent panels in front of the mouth. Would that be adequate for you?

 

[Pipp]

At least here in the US, some masks are available with transparent panels in front of the mouth. Would that be adequate for you?

Thank you for your concern, @milesrf .
Transparent masks , if worn by a person talking to me could, possibly, help with lip reading, but a combination of clear speech and watching facial expressions and mouth movements is generally how I get to understand what others are saying. I can’t expect everyone I encounter to have a transparent mouth cover, so I will just muddle along. I don’t anticipate meeting too many folks face to face, so I will, hopefully, be fine.

 

[Goonergal]

I can't answer for @NicoleC1971 but on the rare occasions I have had to wear a mask, the pleated paper type, I have found it most unpleasant. A slight feeling of suffocation and my glasses steam up so I can't see properly. It probably gets easier with practice.

Agree with this and as I have a tendency to eczema, the moisture brings out a rash on my face, which gets unpleasantly uncomfortable very quickly.

 

[ellendoher]

Hello, Thank you for this excellent description of why we need to wear a mask to protect others in our communities. I have started forwarding this article on to other people. I hope more people will get to see it and this information will be more widely understood.

 

[HSSS]

Hearing impaired, so anyone wearing a mask / face covering makes it difficult for me to be able to understand what they are saying.
However, I appreciate they are providing some protection to others by wearing one, as long as it is worn correctly. So, when I re-enter the world of social interaction with others outside my immediate household, I will reciprocate by wearing a face covering myself. I will, if struggling to communicate, use my phone to text message, and hope others will be patient, and do the same.

A friend locally is sewing reusable masks with a clear portion to facilitate lip reading. Might be an option for those around you regularly

 

[chafas]

I came across these entrepreneurs a few days ago who are doing amazing masks, they are not cheap but they are superb.
It's called indiegogo leaf masks, with N99+ filters.