What he writes here (may2018) re energy storage indicates something different re glycogen storageRespectfully it’s not a strange idea. It’s the view of Dr. Jason Fung, and he knows a thing or two.
I think, when you're just starting out and are in the middle of the learning process, eating to your meter is a good idea. It gives you some insight into what's happening in your body, and after a while it'll help you make long term choices about how many carbs a day you're comfortable with. Mentally and physically.Firstly, I respect that discussion of this nature can be quite prickly. I’d therefore like to open by making it clear that nothing I’m about to say is meant as a disparaging attitude toward anyone’s diabetes management. Food is very personal, and it goes without saying that we are all free to manage our condition as we please. I’m asking this question purely out of curiosity to see which camp we all sit in. If you’re uncomfortable with anything I say, or the manner in which I say it, then please accept my apologies and ignore the discussion rather than take the view that it’s an attack on your choices
With that out of the way, my question is as per the thread title. “Do you eat to the meter” as it were? Do you take the view that as long as you can get from one meal to the next with the maximum glucose load that your own prescribed limits will allow, then you’re ok? Alternatively, do you play the “long game” and always keep in mind that your goal is to purge the body of glucose, not keep topping it up to just below the MAX mark, most probably with the aim of reversal/remission/cure or whatever you choose to call it?
In my own personal view, the latter method is the most effective, and I also find total abstinence of my kryptonite foods to be far easier than negotiating with them - weighing, counting, and then measuring blood glucose. I don’t feel that the former method is sustainable for me for long term, and also I take the stance that it will make my condition ever so gradually worse over the course of my life.
What say you, folks? Again, I know that people are naturally defensive of their own choices, so please read the first paragraph again if you’re considering expressing disapproval of my question or the way in which I have framed it. Open discussion invited though of course. A or B answers would be a bit boring
I think, when you're just starting out and are in the middle of the learning process, eating to your meter is a good idea. It gives you some insight into what's happening in your body, and after a while it'll help you make long term choices about how many carbs a day you're comfortable with. Mentally and physically.
So for me, it's keto and IF, after a year and a half of LCHF and figuring out what worked for me... But really, as T2 is a condition that's highly individual, and some people would feel trapped/imprisoned eating the away I choose to... (And eventually, rebelling would make things that much worse!) I think it just depends on the person.
I think (and I hope @Jim Lahey will correct me if I'm wrong) that Jim means that some here will eat a certain amount of carbs because their meter says they "can" i.e. less than a 2 mmol/l rise after having them. This will of course to a greater or lesser extent do exactly what you say.. .re-stock the glycogen stores so they are in a constant state of flux. Others like myself have the view that as few carbs as possible is a more effective way of looking at things. I guess you could say its the difference between "lower carb" and keto?
I've never "eaten to my meter" and I have always thought that the advice often given to do so was unhelpful, mainly for the reasons given above.
I idea of experimenting constantly and therefore most likely causing damage has always been counter intuitive to me.
I just don't eat the stuff that will harm me.
I have watched the video and he does indeed state that sugar builds up in the body, in addition to the storage of glycogen and fat but he doesn't go into more detail about exactly where and in what form. I have been unable to find any other source to confirm or explain this. Maybe another forum member has more information.This video is probably better at describing the overflow phenomenon and is of a much more manageable length
I see.With that in mind, my own personal feeling is that “eat to the meter” carries a connotation of “topping up” the glucose in the body rather than making intensive efforts to drain it all out.
Are you on the app or web page.. @Charis1213 on my desktop is Type 2 well known member@Charis1213 . Your avatar states you are “ insulin dependent type 2” if you are a resident in the UK why are you buying test strips? If you’re using insulin, test strips should be on prescription.
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