Living-by-the-beach
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- Type of diabetes
- Type 2
- Treatment type
- Diet only
Skipped breakfast on my second day of FMD, yesterday was just one avocado all day, and now for lunch I just ate a Campbell's cream of mushroom (regular, non-light), on the basis of the macronutrient ratio which seems pretty decent in terms of keto + low(ish) protein:
480 calories
42g of fat
14g of carbs
6g of protein.
Fat to carbs ratio aren't 1:1 as FMD normally recommends though.
Of course this means that I'm basically done for the day. I think next time I'll eat a smaller can instead, which should have half the calories, so I can eat an avocado too later.
An avocado is about 300 calories so that's a bit higher than I want. I'll eat one for dinner tonight only if I'm too weak.
I think FMD is a much better solution than surgery, definitely safer, cheaper. I generally avoid meats, cheeses, and high-protein food while on FMD and eat 100% vegetarian (not vegan, at least not yet). I enjoy soup and hot meals, so I like to have one bowl of soup per day. Avocados have the sourge of going bad so it's best to pick them up more often than stock up for the week.
It's funny seeing this article about them trying to find drugs to regenerate beta cells:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/05/170502142353.htm
(same story seen here on d-co-uk), trying to find drugs that induce beta cell replication instead of neogenesis seems less ideal. I've tried a lot of supposed beta cell regen drugs and none of them worked, at least not for extended periods, expept perhaps GLP-1 but there are other explanations as to how that's helped me (by slowing digestion and suppressing glucagon release from the alpha cells). But I think FMD is better.
Like I said before, for impaired beta cell function, it's obvious now that it's better to purge dead / stressed cells and replace them with brand new ones, through beta cell regeneration (neogenesis) rather than replication, which risks being stymied by various factors. Who knows, both things are probably happening, but the big thing that FMD promises is a way for the immune system itself to be rebooted. And if that happens, there's no reason why beta cells shouldn't thrive once again. Remove the cause of the disease and the symptoms should go away. I.e. type 1 is reversible (in theory).
We do know that type 2 is reversible through diet in many cases, but if FMD provides an easier way to achieve it, then I definitely wish you the best of luck. If it catches on because it's only a one time thing (or maybe once every few months), then that's great. Many people simply can't achieve weight loss that easily. I have always found it extremely hard, given that I take insulin shots every day, but cutting my insulin TDD has already reaped dividends for me, especially during FMD.
Yeah I've read that you have to be careful about not having enough salt when you cut carbs out. The few almonds I snack on here and there are salted, as are the soup packs that I use. I just had an insulin reaction / hypo while taking a nap but that's 100% my fault due to having taken too much insulin for the creamy vegetable soup I made earlier. I'm starting to develop a rule of thumb for FMD, which is: if I need more than few units of insulin, I've eaten too many calories. My goal is to try and get by on only 10-20 units a day, max (including 10 from overnight Lantus). I know my body is producing some small amount of insulin on its own, it's just not enough to sustain my sugars even for 500-700 calories a day, and on a ketogenic diet at that. I plan on getting my c-peptides checked again soon to see if I've made any measurable progress. Honestly most of those markers that people measure are superfluous to me. I know my body is in a good ketosis range, the strips tell me, and my sugars tell me I'm doing pretty well on a much smaller insulin TDD than normally.
In the other news about Miracle Dan (the long distance runner who is off insulin), if they turn out to be true, is still not really a workable solution as a cure for most people. For one, I've nearly died several times in my life due to over-exertion from lengthy, intense exercise, and ultra-marathons is something that even fit people struggle with. Plenty of type 1s do normal marathons but no one else has been cured from that, so it's likely one of those super hard / rare flukes that will remain out of reach for 99.9999% of diabetics to reproduce. So that's why I'm focusing on FMD for now, and gradually working in more exercise (although not during FMD itself, I am pretty weak sometimes, literally on "low power" mode).
Feeling great, nearly done my 3rd FMD in a row. One more day, then pizza timeOnly a single cheat meal this time. Maybe some dessert
FMD certainly saves a ton of money and time too. Falling asleep can be a pain. I had two reactions yesterday, one 2.7 and one 3.4. Corrected both with a small cup of OJ and a handful of almonds.
One week on, one week off. Yeah, I'm impatient to kick-start my pancreas. But after this time I have some other life stuff happening, so it'll likely not be for another month before I do this again. Maybe mid-june. Then who knows.
I had some pretty bad headaches during fasting this past day too. Probably not enough salt but the veggy soup mixes I ate were high in sodium so I thought I'd be OK.
One thing on FMD is I tend to sleep a lot, but at night it's hard to fall asleep initially when you're hungry.
Well, that was also my guess. Therefore I took the initiative of starting something similar. Now is in the works ! Hope to give you an update soon.Hopes die last! Five days of fasting seems a reasonable price to pay for a new set of beta cells. This study looks to good too be true.
I've tried to read about different studies re diabetes management or reversability. Sadly, the ones I came across are small in size, time span, funding etc. I don't see why different schools, universities, labs, whatever, join together in a comprehensive research and produce some reliable data. I guess diabetes, just like anything else, is a huge business. Just consider the annual expenses for a diabetic if he/she wanted to use a CGM and a pump.
Hi kokhongw!Have not read very much on this, but this paragraph describing the systemic effect of metformin from the first article I come across seems surprisingly similar to fasting...
Metformin in cancer prevention and therapy
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4200668/
Also in Valter Longo's interview, there was a discussion on Metformin @1:00:00.
Does Metformin increase Autophagy...pretty sure it does.
His response 'Will I take metformin...absolutely not,'
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/fasting-mimicking-diet-promotes-ngn3-driven-β-cell-regeneration-to-reverse-diabetes.116847/#post-1394601
It's post number 9 on the first page of this threadHi kokhongw!
Where do I find that interview with Longo?
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