Gd Has Hung Around And Is Now T2

Hedgehog161

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I was diagnosed with GD during pregnancy, controlled it with insulin and gave birth to a healthy child. I was then told that the diabetes has remained post-childbirth and I'm now Type 2. I'm now being advised to follow a low GI rather than a low carb diet, however I know that a lot of 'healthy' carbs cause me to spike from when I was testing my blood during pregnancy. GP explicitly told me not to low carb, and started going on about heart disease, the dangers of eating fat etc.

Do I ignore my GP and low carb? If I don't reduce my blood glucose by our next appointment in 3 months he's said he will put me on medication, I want to avoid this but really don't think I will by following a low GI diet. Blood Glucose was 7.1 mmol/L at my last appointment. Any advice would be appreciated as I'm a bit overwhelmed by all the conflicting advice online. Thanks.
 

NoCrbs4Me

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We can't tell you to ignore your doctor's advice, but that's what I did after I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I was told to follow the "healthy" plate guidelines, but I followed a low carb high fat diet and it worked for me to get my blood glucose levels to normal.
 

Hedgehog161

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Thanks for your reply, I guess I'm not looking to be 'told' what to do, poor phrasing on my part, more looking for advice and other people's opinions/experiences. I'm pretty sure I'm going to go down the low carb route and see how I get on.
 
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Rachox

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Hi Hedgehog and welcome to the Forum. First I’ll tag in @daisy1 for her useful info post.
I’ll just tell you what I did. On diagnosis in May’17 I wasn’t given any dietary advice, which was actually a good thing because I hit Google and stumbled on this site. I took advice from here and immediately went low carb at less than 100g per day. After six weeks I dropped to under 70, and since New Year under 60. I have had non diabetic HbA1cs since Sept. I’ve also lost a shed load of weight which was very welcome. I don’t go over the top on fats but eat enough to keep me from getting hungry. My cholesterol numbers deteriorated to begin with but that’s common with rapid weight loss. My last blood test showed improvement again. I can’t tell you what to do, but low carbing has done the trick for me.
 
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NicoleC1971

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I am type 1 but also ignore the standard advice! I would treat yourself as an experiment i.e. measure your fasting bg and get an HBA1c done plus blood lipid panel then try changing your food. With a small baby to look after, perhaps it would be reasonable to upgrade your most carby meal of the day to see if you can get consistent with that then see if it has made a difference to how you feel and your fasting BG. You can always extend this approach to other meals over time). You would need to be consistent over 12 weeks to see if it has made a difference to the hba1c (get lipids done at the same time).
its worth knowing that your cholesterol may actually change for the better (more good cholesterol and less triglycerides = less risk of heart disease) and even if your bad cho goes up this does not necessarily mean you have increased your risk if you are eating a low carb diet. Good luck and hope you will come back to get great advice and support on this forum.
 

rosco 2

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We all have choices. There’s risk to pretty much every strategy, it’s a question of weighing up the evidence and making a decision that feels right for you. After all, you have to live with the outcomes. My GP describes himself as pretty knowledgeable re diabetes and he is almost certainly very experienced as I live in an east end of London high prevalence for diabetes area. He expressed support for my low carb / sugar diet and knows I am limiting intake. He wonders how long I can sustain eating so little but was not bothered about fat intake at this time. Suggested I might like lo salt!
 

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@Hedgehog161

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will try to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Hedgehog161

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Thanks for this advice, very useful. I will take the advice to test fasting bg, Cholesterol is fine at the moment and I'm only slightly overweight so I feel ok about trying the low carb diet and seeing how I get on.