Glucose after burger & chips!

No one can give you an answer as we all process carbs differently, I don't think many would even want to see what it would spike to, I know I certainly wouldn't.

 

Just guesses if say starting from 5.5:
1 hour: 7.5 - 8.0
2 hour: 8.5 - 9.0

 

I think a reply to this would be a bit like

If I had wheels I'd be a bus.

Very few diet controlled T2s manage to eat a meal like that, most are on less than 120g a day. T2s can eat that sort of thing, but generally only if they adopt the medicated route (drugs culminating in large quantities of insulin).

Having said all that, some people go into remission by losing weight and can temporarily tolerate that sort of diet - it's just that it tends to drive them back out of remission.

And having said all that, everyone's body is different, so no doubt some people can cope with it.

 

I just had a burger yesterday, I should have tested lol.
But I didn’t eat the bun, and I only had three onion rings.

 

Even as an insulin dependant Type 1 I would never eat such a meal

 

I've posted this before but the is a non-diabetic low carb doctor who wore a cgm & experimented.
This was his McDonalds experience.
https://twitter.com/DocRunner1/status/1163803780179271681



Deeper in the replies a pharmacist posted the CGM profile of one of his non-diabetic staff who did the same.
https://twitter.com/grahamsphillips/status/1163842842353160192



So yes, CGM's have thrown the 7.8 rule out the window.
That's why I reckon once wearables are able to give accurate real time glucose readings it will be a bad time to buy shares in processed food companies.

 

I suffered an eating disorder after I was diagnosed which I still haven't fully recovered from, people chose to do what they want but bolus timing (when you inject your insulin) plays a big part in controlling spikes in BG, there is so much to take into account in timing this, site used, time of day, fat and protein content in the meal so it isn't just all about carbs, spikes can do damage as well so best to the limit them and iron them out but the fat content in this Type of meal could cause a delayed spike after the insulin has finished working so not worth it xx

 

I do love a good burger, thankfully there’s a Carl’s Jr. near me that sells a burger wrapped in lettuce. I usually get a side salad and tea

 

There was a CGM experiment conducted on 57 healthy young Stanford University Students where they ate 3 test meals.
Many of them blew through 200 (11.1) on a single bowl of cornflakes.
https://www.futurity.org/blood-sugar-levels-glucose-1823122/

These are the 57 glycemic responses annoyingly overlaid on a single graph for each item they ate.



Perhaps we should be easier on ourselves when we see a high number.

 

It's different fro everyone, but I'd be seeing double digits, even with my slightly improved insulin sensitivity. Not good. It'd make me ill. One responds better to it than the other, but for me... That seems like straight-up poison. That said.... I have gone to Five Guys, McD's and Burger King etc, and just ordered burgers without the buns. (And before going carnivore, I'd have them add whatever low carb options were available. At 5 Guys it'd be a feast, with mushrooms, onions, lettuce, tomato, bacon and whatnot. I've also ordered a stack of 5 burger patties over at McD's. Got some strange looks, but it was good! )

 

It's an evolving science & we're the generation that's pretty much the guinea pigs.
The only solid data they had on the non-diabetic population pre cgm's has come from the OGTT.
Which saw the average person start around 5 mmol/L go up to 7 or 8 then back down to 5 at the 2 hour matk.
It never considered the real world dynamic of eating where you could graze over a starter, main course, desert & beer over 90 mins.
The complexity of protein, fats, carbs, alcohol all ariving in different quantities over an extended time frame was impossible to standardise against a general population.
Much easier to rely on the data from 75g pure glucose chugged back in under 3 mins.

I'm afraid you have been the victim of the old fashioned data they have to hand, FBG, Hba1c & random.
Your random shouldn't have even raised an eyebrow but they don't know any better.

 

Or maybe we should simply avoid the foods that cause them?

 

Sorry but this is misleading nonsense..

Plenty of low carbers get pregnant and have "normal" babies .. in fact it seems there are many women who become pregnant after changing their diet to low carb when previously they couldn't.