When my sisters came down to Cornwall to visit me some years back we went for a meal and they all hit the sweet trolly with a vengence. I sat amazed at my diabetic sisters eating what I thought was poisen, but when they tested their blood the next morning there was no real problem. I must admit to being a bit of a wimp and staying, nearly, away from most stuff like that.
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Have you cured or reversed type 2
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lrw60 said:
So they didn't test after 2 hours to see how high they had spiked? It is the spikes that cause the problem - doing the damage that leads to complications. Mind you, I still eat puds occasionally, as a treat.
In the beginning, my lowest ever reading was 3.5 - 2 hours after eating a 99 ice-cream cone plus chocolate flake. It must have shocked my pancreas into action :shock: .
My bete noir is/are mince pies - 11.2 after 2 hours. Christmas pud is not nearly as bad - must be all the cream :wink:
Viv 8)
Yorksman said:viviennem said:
My experiences exactly, the ice cream (Morecambe Bay), Christmas pud, (works do) and the mince pies, (weakness at home). Exactly the same sort of fluctuations. Maybe further research is called for
How's this for a starting theory?:
The ice cream is pretty much all sugar with a bit of fat - fast spike and faster fall;
Christmas pud: mostly fruit sugars, some flour, lots of fat - slowed everything down;
mince pies: fruit sugars also, but lots of flour and sugar in the pastry plus a sprinkle of sugar on top - slower but higher spike.
We'll have to experiment with the mince pies - eg no sugar in the pastry or on top; with or without cream; half the filling of apple; etc.
It's a hard life! :wink:
Viv 8)
Sunshine_Kisses
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viviennem said:
This sorta falls in line with a theory that I'm coming up with that it's not so much sugar that's the enemy per say - especially if we're talking natural sugars like honey and fruits, rather than the refined stuff - but it's the flours, or maybe the combo of flours and sugars, that's a big no no... it's obviously just a vague hunch, but falls in line with the two sweet things I've had both being cream and sugar rather than cakes/pastry/flours and sugars... so I am sort of starting to wonder if a little bit of sweet stuff *in moderation* would be ok, possibly even helpful...? And I do promise this isn't some sort of elaborate excuse I've come up with to have sweet treats :lol:
Sunshine_Kisses
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Yorksman said:My experiences exactly, the ice cream (Morecambe Bay), Christmas pud, (works do) and the mince pies, (weakness at home). Exactly the same sort of fluctuations. Maybe further research is called for
Haha, I think I might agree!
pipwizard
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my bloods 2 years ago were in 26 not good but loos7n wieght 3 stone and I hope another few more lbs my bloods have gone down to 10.5 may be even 8 but about 6 months back I was in a depression due to no job and copping with the diabetes, my bloods were going back up to 18 in the day I just couldn't understand it so like some one here said don't ever listen to much to the docs I googled pain and depression with diabetes blood levels and I was surprised to see it dosent help and so since finding this out I've been trying my best to cut out thing carbs bread potatoes ect and its helping so I hope to get my bloods back to norm again .... so the answer isnyeh I think u can reverse it but ill say this I've lost 10stbaltogether even before I was dibectic and when I heard I was one it saved my life truly .
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viviennem said:
And what about the chocolate flake then ?? :lol:
I accept that having been diagnosed as a Type 2 Diabetic, I will always have the potential to return to being a Type 2 Diabetic, but for the last 4 years, I have cleared Diabetes Type 2 by diet alone.
To begin with, I was overweight and moderately obese and being depressed and on anti depressant tablets, I did not care what I ate and drank and getting Diabetes then, was a natural progression.
I eventually took myself off the anti depressant tablets and managed for about 12 months before my emotional problems got the better of me and I had to put myself back on the anti depressant tablets and have remained on them ever since - the depression unrelated to diabetes.
During the 12 months off anti depressant tablets, I got a real fright when my blood sugars rose and there was the very real prospect of becoming a Type 1, thus I found a website on the internet, in America, which was treating people with Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes, by diet and exercise alone and using their techniques, I came up with my own diet and have been on it these past 4 years with the same amazing results, I am back to normal sugar levels and apart from 1 Diamicron 60 mg tablet taken daily, at breakfast, as a precautionary measure, I am diabetes free.
I had my regular eyesight test earlier this year and was told my eyesight had remained the same for 2 years and I did not need new glasses, which has never happened before. My drivers license has been extended from 1 year to 2 years before I am required to take a medical (normally a yearly thing in Aussie to be allowed to keep my drivers license and drive a car) and mainly a huge cut back in my daily food consumption and a shrinking of my stomach, so that I no longer eat anything like I once did on a daily basis, yet I remain as capable of the same amount of exercise and I feel comfortable and healthy and well.
Here is my diet:
In the medical updates which I have read with interest, it seems that my diet is also a way of protecting my body against heart and brain related diseases, especially as I get older than my 65 years.
The lighter you, the better control over your Diabetes and the longer your life.
I settled on the enclosed diet of 2,500 Calories each day.
Breakfast:
2 x eggs raw.
2 serves of 2 biscuits of Weetbix = 4
1 Tablespoon of low fat dried milk powder, mixed with water, or low fat milk.
3 pieces of fruit (Advocado, Apple & a Banana) I liquidise the fruit into a smoothie which I drink with my tablets – prior to my morning fast walk.
Snack 10am (after the daily morning walk).
Handful of nuts
1 piece of fruit,
Sticks of Celery.
Mug of water
Lunch 12.30 pm
1 x 130g to 200g can of raw fish in brine: Salmon, Herring, Sardines, Mackerel, Tuna, etc
1 x piece of fruit, as above.
Mug of water
Afternoon snack
2 mugs of juiced carrots with Apple or celery sticks.
Piece of fruit, as above
Mug of water
Dinner:
Usual meal, minimise portions to reduce amount of food the body needs, however without salt, fat or sugar related products
If you enjoy a drink, try to drink sugar free drinks
I used to get fatigue around 2pm through to about 4pm and could never work out why I always felt tired then. The solution was quite straight forward. Eating the 1 x 130g to 200g can of fish in brine, at lunchtime, recharged my energy banks for most of the afternoon and made me awake and aware of what was happening around me, even when I felt physically tired and that has in itself, changed my life and my enjoyment of life enormously.
Of course and it goes without saying, I must eat and drink no sugar related products which includes no alcohol of any type and although I have never smoked, giving up smoking, is a must too.
I hope my diet and exercise plan, which is simplicity itself and the cure, automatic, will help those of you willing to give it a try and I would be happy to support and encourage everyone willing to give themselves a second chance with my diet, through this forum.
BigBenn
To begin with, I was overweight and moderately obese and being depressed and on anti depressant tablets, I did not care what I ate and drank and getting Diabetes then, was a natural progression.
I eventually took myself off the anti depressant tablets and managed for about 12 months before my emotional problems got the better of me and I had to put myself back on the anti depressant tablets and have remained on them ever since - the depression unrelated to diabetes.
During the 12 months off anti depressant tablets, I got a real fright when my blood sugars rose and there was the very real prospect of becoming a Type 1, thus I found a website on the internet, in America, which was treating people with Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes, by diet and exercise alone and using their techniques, I came up with my own diet and have been on it these past 4 years with the same amazing results, I am back to normal sugar levels and apart from 1 Diamicron 60 mg tablet taken daily, at breakfast, as a precautionary measure, I am diabetes free.
I had my regular eyesight test earlier this year and was told my eyesight had remained the same for 2 years and I did not need new glasses, which has never happened before. My drivers license has been extended from 1 year to 2 years before I am required to take a medical (normally a yearly thing in Aussie to be allowed to keep my drivers license and drive a car) and mainly a huge cut back in my daily food consumption and a shrinking of my stomach, so that I no longer eat anything like I once did on a daily basis, yet I remain as capable of the same amount of exercise and I feel comfortable and healthy and well.
Here is my diet:
In the medical updates which I have read with interest, it seems that my diet is also a way of protecting my body against heart and brain related diseases, especially as I get older than my 65 years.
The lighter you, the better control over your Diabetes and the longer your life.
I settled on the enclosed diet of 2,500 Calories each day.
Breakfast:
2 x eggs raw.
2 serves of 2 biscuits of Weetbix = 4
1 Tablespoon of low fat dried milk powder, mixed with water, or low fat milk.
3 pieces of fruit (Advocado, Apple & a Banana) I liquidise the fruit into a smoothie which I drink with my tablets – prior to my morning fast walk.
Snack 10am (after the daily morning walk).
Handful of nuts
1 piece of fruit,
Sticks of Celery.
Mug of water
Lunch 12.30 pm
1 x 130g to 200g can of raw fish in brine: Salmon, Herring, Sardines, Mackerel, Tuna, etc
1 x piece of fruit, as above.
Mug of water
Afternoon snack
2 mugs of juiced carrots with Apple or celery sticks.
Piece of fruit, as above
Mug of water
Dinner:
Usual meal, minimise portions to reduce amount of food the body needs, however without salt, fat or sugar related products
If you enjoy a drink, try to drink sugar free drinks
I used to get fatigue around 2pm through to about 4pm and could never work out why I always felt tired then. The solution was quite straight forward. Eating the 1 x 130g to 200g can of fish in brine, at lunchtime, recharged my energy banks for most of the afternoon and made me awake and aware of what was happening around me, even when I felt physically tired and that has in itself, changed my life and my enjoyment of life enormously.
Of course and it goes without saying, I must eat and drink no sugar related products which includes no alcohol of any type and although I have never smoked, giving up smoking, is a must too.
I hope my diet and exercise plan, which is simplicity itself and the cure, automatic, will help those of you willing to give it a try and I would be happy to support and encourage everyone willing to give themselves a second chance with my diet, through this forum.
BigBenn
Yorksman
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bigbenn said:
Thanks for that post. I am following a similar diet though I vary it by day, not by meal, ie 2 fish days, I vegetarian day and so on. I also do daily exerice but use a rower or bike indoors, for ten mins, 1 hour after every meal. My weight is dropping, my energy levels rising and my blood sugar levels stabilising around normal figures.
It is encouraging to hear from someone who has has been doing it for a few years and with such positive outcomes.
Yorksman said:
I like them both, though I don't drink much beer these days. There's lots of good beers round here, bottled by micro-breweries, with really good names like Owd Tup (which means "old ram" for those of you not in the dialect know). I think they tend to be relatively high in carbs,though. Another subject for experiment? :wink:
We have a "Beer and Boots" festival in the summer which involves walking through the Dales from pub to pub, sampling the beers along the way.
I'm beginning to sound like the Yorkshire Tourist Board! :lol:
As for the chocolate flake (Gezzathorpe's post), it was a small cheap one which had probably never been near a cocoa bean in its life. Mostly sugar and flavouring, I expect - adding to the fast peak!
Viv 8)
Yorksman
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viviennem said:
I remember "gettin t'sheep tupped" from the survey of english dialects in the British Library. 'Jim Wade gives an account of a typical year in sheep farming, including details of the mating, lambing and shearing of the sheep and the sale of the wool and the fattened lambs. Clitheroe is a town some way north of Read.'
Although he's in Lancs, they are using some sort of cross bred Wensleydale:
http://sounds.bl.uk/Accents-and-dialect ... 4XX-0900V1
Here, Mr Fothergill from Dent in Yorkshire gives an account of a typical year in a sheep farmer’s life from shearing and dipping, to mating and lambing.
http://sounds.bl.uk/Accents-and-dialect ... 6XX-0400V1
Yorksman
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MCMLXXIII said:
You'll know Cowman's famous sausage shop in Clitheroe then. A truly fine establishment. I thought it was going to be a butchers shop but with a few extra types of different sausages. I didn't realise that it was nearly all sausages and just a few bits of meat. Because they make their own they can advise on special dietary requirements. A visit there must also result in a visit to Bynes fine wines, another remarkably stocked shop for such a small place.
Isn't Ramsbottom home of the Real Lancashire Black Pudding Company? Some slices of that is OK for a diabetic because they use oats rather than flour.
MCMLXXIII
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There are a few black pud purveyors here, chadwicks do a v pud which compensates with beetroot were pig blood would be used. We have an artisan Market and a farmers maket on respective sundays of the month, (tomorrow in fact) that's well worth a visit. Plus the dreaded chocolate cafe which I dont particularly rate as I believe its expensive.
