Hello and yes I have type 2 diabetes

Rachel_Brett

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I have lost the list, but my name is Rachel, am married with 2 adult children who have left home, and I have a hubby still at home.
We both run our own businesses, and OH (the hubby) is looking to retire next year.

I am passionate about food, and when I got really sick about 4 years ago, or was is 5, (time flies and all that chaps), I realised that the low fat diet that I had been on was a complete fallacy, based on outdated and outmoded principles and started on a GI diet which effectively help me lose weight.

Since then I have been playing around with low carb with very mixed results, and so I have finally bit the bullet to go the whole hog. I cook everything, and I mean everything from scratch so I know what is in my food.

The other thing I have just taken up is aquafit twice a week, which I absolutely love.

So I look forward to reducing my sugar levels, and improving my health and chatting to all of you.
 

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I have lost the list, but my name is Rachel, am married with 2 adult children who have left home, and I have a hubby still at home.
We both run our own businesses, and OH (the hubby) is looking to retire next year.

I am passionate about food, and when I got really sick about 4 years ago, or was is 5, (time flies and all that chaps), I realised that the low fat diet that I had been on was a complete fallacy, based on outdated and outmoded principles and started on a GI diet which effectively help me lose weight.

Since then I have been playing around with low carb with very mixed results, and so I have finally bit the bullet to go the whole hog. I cook everything, and I mean everything from scratch so I know what is in my food.

The other thing I have just taken up is aquafit twice a week, which I absolutely love.

So I look forward to reducing my sugar levels, and improving my health and chatting to all of you.

Hi Rachel, good to hear from you, I hope you will share some of your favourite low carb recipes and let us know the results! Now, we're all nosy on this site, can you share your glucose numbers etc?
 
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I have lost the list, but my name is Rachel, am married with 2 adult children who have left home, and I have a hubby still at home.
We both run our own businesses, and OH (the hubby) is looking to retire next year.

I am passionate about food, and when I got really sick about 4 years ago, or was is 5, (time flies and all that chaps), I realised that the low fat diet that I had been on was a complete fallacy, based on outdated and outmoded principles and started on a GI diet which effectively help me lose weight.

Since then I have been playing around with low carb with very mixed results, and so I have finally bit the bullet to go the whole hog. I cook everything, and I mean everything from scratch so I know what is in my food.

The other thing I have just taken up is aquafit twice a week, which I absolutely love.

So I look forward to reducing my sugar levels, and improving my health and chatting to all of you.
Hi Rachel, and welcome! Hope we'll be able to learn from each other. I'm rather useless in the kitchen, but keto I can handle! (Less measuring, just always go for the lowest possible carbs, haha). Anyway, have a gander around here and if you have questions or meal suggestions, we'd love to hear them!
Jo
 
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Hi and welcome to the club,

You seem to have grabbed the bull by the horns, and finding this forum will help enormously.

How are your blood sugars?
 

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Hi Rachel and welcome!
You sound very well up to speed with Type 2 and low carbs but in case you haven’t seen it, I’ll tag in @daisy1 for her useful info post, always worth a refresher too if you have read it before.
 

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Hi Rachel and welcome!
You sound very well up to speed with Type 2 and low carbs but in case you haven’t seen it, I’ll tag in @daisy1 for her useful info post, always worth a refresher too if you have read it before.
Well you look like where I should be going, and haven't made it yet.... So well done.
So frustrated with my body. It just won't do what I want it to do.... and in the end a couple of weeks I gave up completely when I got my results that jumped from 6.5 to 8.5. I have been exercising watching everything I had been eating, and the weight went up according to my surgery - not according to my clothes sizes which have gone down). I need help, and if I could blame portion controls I would, but I don't eat a ton of food... Long story, but I basically can't. (and no, I haven't had bariatric surgery). It is about eating the right things for me...
 
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Rachel_Brett

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Hi Rachel, good to hear from you, I hope you will share some of your favourite low carb recipes and let us know the results! Now, we're all nosy on this site, can you share your glucose numbers etc?
This is how frustrating it is for me. 6 months ago was 6.5 or 48mmol; having lost weight, my number is now 8.5 or 69mmol. Angry or what... I don't get it. I have been low carb for about 3 years now... So I know the drill.
 

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This is how frustrating it is for me. 6 months ago was 6.5 or 48mmol; having lost weight, my number is now 8.5 or 69mmol. Angry or what... I don't get it. I have been low carb for about 3 years now... So I know the drill.

Rachel, can you give us a typical day's food?, I know you have been low carb but it really helps for us to see what that means for you.
 
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Rachel, can you give us a typical day's food?, I know you have been low carb but it really helps for us to see what that means for you.
Typical brekkies is egg on toast - toast is usually seeded sourdough with lashings of butter, lunch is salmon, courgettes and leeks with spinach and cream cheese mixed up, and supper is meat and veg... I drink coffee in the morning, then have got into drinking recently redbush tea, just cos I like it. I do drink tea and milk as well. I do have one apple a day and have the occasional drink. I have struggled to give up bread and potatoes, everything else is easy, I don't really like it that much, so I have a slice a day of the bread and one potato, usually covered in fat roasted, but other than than, I try and keep my proteins and fats high... Everything I have is full fat. As I said it isn't the quantity, it has to be the quality, or something else is going on. I do have kefir every day after I take my meds.
 

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Ive always found milk keffir sends my sugars up too much
When I tried coconuT keffir tho’, that didnt spike my sugars but it was stupidly expensive so made my eyes water!
I have seen some online recipes for homemade coconut keffir but havent ever got round to making them
There are a load of recipes for low carb “bread” online too - some are great others not so great, my current favourite is a slightly leftfield one made from almond butter and eggs but there are plenty utilising ground almonds instead of wheat flour
https://divaliciousrecipes.com/almond-butter-bread/
Haven't tried this one but looks interesting / promising
https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/foodanddrink/how-to-make-lowcarb-seeded-bread-a3486326.html
As do some of these from one of my favourite low carb recipe sites
https://divaliciousrecipes.com/?s=Bread
 
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@Rachel_Brett May I ask if you are testing your own blood sugars to see how your body reacts to your food choices? (Testing before you eat and again 2 hours after first bite), and do you keep a food diary? Also, can you tell us which diabetes meds you are on (if any)/ It isn't all about losing weight.
 
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Well you look like where I should be going, and haven't made it yet.... So well done.
So frustrated with my body. It just won't do what I want it to do.... and in the end a couple of weeks I gave up completely when I got my results that jumped from 6.5 to 8.5. I have been exercising watching everything I had been eating, and the weight went up according to my surgery - not according to my clothes sizes which have gone down). I need help, and if I could blame portion controls I would, but I don't eat a ton of food... Long story, but I basically can't. (and no, I haven't had bariatric surgery). It is about eating the right things for me...

Thanks for your kind words. I’ve got to where I am by eating under 50g of carbs per day. I’ve had a look at your food list and by a quick calculation I’m reckoning that your 1 slice of bread, your apple, your potato and kefir probably total more than 50g carbs and that’s not taking into account the small amounts in veggies and the milk in your tea. It might be worth weighing all your food and doing an accurate calculation of the exact carb content of your diet. Do you monitor your blood sugars at home before and after you eat? That’s another valuable tool I’ve used to assess what foods I can tolerate.
 

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I can now tolerate a little bread, which I can buy from the local Polish supermarket for silly amounts of money, but it is very low carb, or I make myself adding in loads of low carb milled seeds, psyllium flour, coconut flour, make some very small loaves which I freeze and then ration throughout the month.
Making a loaf with all wheat flour does make a very high carb bread, you can't avoid it.
I control my diabetes down to the very top edge of normal, but have to stick to 40 gm of carbs a day maximum at the moment as I am trying to lose weight. I got down to normal BG tests on 50 gm of carb per day, but wasn't losing weight.
I can also eat a couple of apples a week as I have them in the garden - I do not buy them so at other times of year I eat frozen berries, a small portion, with cream, in the evening as I am more able to cope with carbs later in the day.
Potatoes do not feature - I do have celeriac, turnip and swedes from time to time.
 

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@Rachel_Brett

Hello Rachel and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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