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tdiederich

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Hello to all! My name is Terry Diederich. I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes in December as part of my yearly physical. I already have heart disease, a couple years ago I had a heart attack and have been dealing with that. I know heart disease and diabetes are not a good combination. I'm not panicking. It is what it is. I'm just trying to figure out what I need to do.

I'm 54 years old, 6 ft tall. I weighed 224lb when I had my heart attack. I'm down to 198 now. Would still like to lose a few more.

No isulin at this point. Taking Metformin.

There are a number of options for diets. I'm looking into going the low-fat, low-carb, vegetarian route. I know there is no cure for this stuff, at this point it's just about reducing the risk as much as possible and I think, from what I've read, that this type of diet gives me the best chance to reduce my risks.

I'm in Indiana, that's in the midwest in the US.

Looking forward to talking with everyone!
 

snowmonkey

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welcome terry. sorry to hear of your troubles. for me, losing weight was key to getting it under control, agree with the low carb...but some fat is ok (for me). I think it is protein that makes us feel "full". carbs are everywhere and lots in some food that is supposed to be healthy e.g. orange juice. take it steady
 
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tdiederich

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Thanks snowmonkey. I'm expecting this to be somewhat experimental for a while. Everyone seems to react a bit differently so I'll listen to what other people have tried, see how if affects me, and make adjustments
 
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snowmonkey

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probably wise to lose a few lbs (it has helped me; we are similar ages and height and I used to be 214 lb)

there is research on this site that shows that for T2s losing body fat is key.

you may find that the metformin helps reduce your appetite. personally, i would avoid crash or extreme diets. for many decent food is an important part if day to day life.
 
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Rachox

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Hi tdiederich and welcome!
First I’ll tag in @daisy1 who will post loads of useful info for newbies. I was diagnosed in May last year and have been on low carb moderate fat diet and Metformin since then and have lost 71 pounds and got my blood sugars and HbA1c to non diabetic levels. I have found that Metformin does suppress my appetite a little which is helpful.
 

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Hello to all! My name is Terry Diederich. I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes in December as part of my yearly physical. I already have heart disease, a couple years ago I had a heart attack and have been dealing with that. I know heart disease and diabetes are not a good combination. I'm not panicking. It is what it is. I'm just trying to figure out what I need to do.

I'm 54 years old, 6 ft tall. I weighed 224lb when I had my heart attack. I'm down to 198 now. Would still like to lose a few more.

No isulin at this point. Taking Metformin.

There are a number of options for diets. I'm looking into going the low-fat, low-carb, vegetarian route. I know there is no cure for this stuff, at this point it's just about reducing the risk as much as possible and I think, from what I've read, that this type of diet gives me the best chance to reduce my risks.

I'm in Indiana, that's in the midwest in the US.

Looking forward to talking with everyone!

Hi Terry. I see @Rachox has tagged daisy1...she will be along with some very good stuff for you to consider. I am sure you will gain from joining the site/community; I certainly have. low carb dieting has been the way for me...no meds just diet. I would advise you think about recording what you eat, and if you don't have meter at home...give it some thought - helps you identify the foods that have most impact. Good luck.
 

Tophat1900

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It is a trial and error thing with diet. Don't be afraid to eat fat, it isn't the devils food as it has been made out to be.

I'd recommend getting a meter, so you know (as has already been mentioned) what foods spike your levels and also if you feel unwell, you can test and it is a good idea to test before meals and few hrs after to see what happens. If you don't test, you just don't know what is going on. If you don't know what is going on then you can't achieve control. It's a pain in the A, but that's life. Many things we don't want to do, but have to.

And welcome!
 
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tdiederich

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I do have a meter. My doctor recommended I get one so I did right away and have been using it.

My desire to go low-fat has more to do with my heart issues than my diabetes. And by fat I'm focusing on saturated fat mostly.
 
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lindijanice

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Hey tdiederich, welcome from another American! (Although I have lived in Canada for 46 years - married a charming Canadian oh so long ago....:)) Anyway, I would wonder if it would be helpful for you to get a copy of Dr. Mosley's book the 8 week sugar diet.....he is a diabetic himself and came up with a game changer of a diet to lose weight fast and get you BSs in good control....as you are looking at vegetarian, lower saturated fats, due to your cardiac issues, he may be helpful....just a thought....there also is a great course offered through diabetes.co.uk that includes weekly menu plans for vegetarians and for carnivores like me:) Blessings/L
 
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daisy1

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@tdiederich

Hello Terry and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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