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Hello, I’m a recently diagnosed type 2.

Discussion in 'Newly Diagnosed' started by Shawn14564, Sep 6, 2019.

  1. Resurgam

    Resurgam Type 2 (in remission!) · Expert

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    Have you checked after eating?
    I have never bothered with testing first thing in the morning as there is nothing I can learn from it, but I check after eating once in a while just to show myself that my choices have consequences.
    When starting off it is usual to do a check before eating, then at one hour and two hours after that. Once you have data from a few meals testing at the two hour point is all that you really need.
    To get down to a top end of normal Hba1c I can eat 40 gm of carbs a day - but I am really sensitive to carbs - always have been even when doing a lot of exercise. We all have to find out how best to manage our blood glucose. We are all different.
     
  2. Shawn14564

    Shawn14564 · Member

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    I feel like I learn the most from the fasting readings in the morning. After all, my goal is to have a fasting blood sugar below 100. I know it will go up after I eat, everyone’s does. Even non-diabetics can have readings in the 140’s after a meal. As long as it returns to normal, that’s all I’m after.

    That said, I have done a few after meals. It ranges from the 130s to 140s about 60-90 minutes after a meal. I feel like that is ok?
     
  3. Rachox

    Rachox Type 2 (in remission!) · Moderator
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    That is ok if the rise from before to after the meal is no more than 2mmol/l (36 in your units). You need to compare the before and after readings to establish if your meal was suitable for you.
     
  4. Caprock94

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    I always wondered what the thinking was here. Wouldn't going from a pre-meal reading of 90 to a post meal reading of 130 still be better than say a pre-meal of 125 and a post meal reading of 145?
     
  5. Rachox

    Rachox Type 2 (in remission!) · Moderator
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    Oh now, you’ve got me there, I assume it’s the effect of the size of the spike? I’ll tag in @Bluetit1802 who is usually a font of all blood test knowledge. Sorry to put you on the spot Bluetit1802 but if you don’t know the answer I don’t know who will :)
     
  6. Bluetit1802

    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Guru

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    You flatter me, @Rachox !! I have no idea, but all I can say is "the flatter the line, the better" and the "lower the better."
     
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    Rachox Type 2 (in remission!) · Moderator
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    Thanks for replying, so my understanding matches yours that you need stable low levels avoiding spikes, even if the spikes are within normal ranges?
     
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  8. Caprock94

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    Covered both sides. Well played! :)
     
  9. Bluetit1802

    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Guru

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    That's what I intended!
     
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  10. Bluetit1802

    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Guru

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    I think another side to this is the length of time the spikes take to get to low levels. The longer the BS is raised the worse it is, even at levels accepted as OK by the NHS.
     
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    What is considered a good response time for the spike to come back down?
     
  12. Resurgam

    Resurgam Type 2 (in remission!) · Expert

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    I'm afraid I can't comment as I work on the level two hours from beginning the meal, and if the reading is over 7 mmol/l which would be 126, I know I have overdone the carbs. I take notice of that and adjust down in future. I want to avoid spikes.
     
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    This all depends on the contents of the meal. How many carbs. How much fat. Any alcohol. Activities after eating. We all have our own targets for this, and as our body is unique, it will vary from person to person. In my own case I tend to be highest around 60 to 90 minutes then drop by 2 hours and back to normal by 2 and a half hours. This is after my main evening meal.
     
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    This is typical for me as well.
     
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    C7BC3848-3FF0-4FC5-990D-FAAB4D81433F.jpeg This was my fasting blood sugar this morning. Doing good! 180g carbs/day, 1700 calories/day, 45 minutes cardio exercise/day.
     
  16. sno0opy

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    Hey,

    Good work and keep it up,

    Just as a note my fasting blood glucose is always good now having done something similar although i'm only 8 weeks in i have lost about 15kg so far. My levels 2 hours after a meal are still not good if i eat the wrong foods. Its not correct to say that only your fasting levels matter, if your levels are rising to higher levels then 145 after meals its still considered diabetic because during those periods the high sugar is doing damage to your body.

    If still up after 2 hours, they may still be up after 3 or 4 hours.

    Its certainly worth testing after meals just to see where you are as fixing your fasting is only part of the battle.

    Not trying to be a downer here, but its just worth looking at it as long term its hard to keep to such a low cal diet, but you could end up thinking your good, back to eating a normal all be it healthier diet but continue to do damage because your body inst processing it well through the day.
     
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    I was also diagnosed recently, given Metamofin. 500. Waited a week, then begun to take it. First week went well. Second week 2 by day, had digestion problems. Learned I have to take it middle of meals. Now forth week, ok. Lost 4 kg, as a lot less appetite.
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