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Low carb, keto for children

Discussion in 'Low-carb Diet Forum' started by IanD, Feb 7, 2018.

  1. IanD

    IanD Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Trouble is, the medical professionals prescribe epilim. A keto diet is no danger to health - & obviously we will watch her carefully & adapt as necessary.

    e,g, In their rejection of a low carb diet, the DUKs warn against constipation. Such a condition is readily corrected by diet adjustment, without increasing carbs.

    I followed the medical professionals - Dr & DUK/NHS - diet very carefully, reinforced by the local dietitian. They did warn me that diabetes was progressive - don't think you've failed when you get worse. In 8 years I was crippled with neuropathy. Dr suggested hospital investigation. This forum advised low carb & in 3 months I was out of pain & playing tennis again. TEN years ago. Still free of diabetes symptoms, still playing tennis at 78.

    Much better to follow the advice of people who HAVE triumphed over their condition.
     
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  2. IanD

    IanD Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    That's right, I'm wearing their shirt in this film.

    THanks, I'll follow that up. Actually I went on the expert course after I started low carb - the dietitian recommended it. That was before Dr Deakin started low carb herself, so I wrote to her complaining about the advice regarding fats ... the rest is history. I've had a fair amount of correspondence with Sam at PHC, though they've never come near enough to meet.
     
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    DCUKMod I reversed my Type 2 · Moderator
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    Perhaps drop Sam and email and see if he knows of any of the keto supporting HCPs, working in paediatric epilepsy near where you'll be.
     
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    notafanofsugar Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Kailee56 Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    Epileptic children benefitting from Ketogenic diet

    Largest group was 2-6 year olds in this study
    http://www.gutbrainaxis.org/pdf/cross paper KD vs AEDs.pdf

    A review of multiple studies showing refractory epileptic children benefit from Ketogenic diet
    https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/b2ff/be7088098be1ffb9396d96490c6e3ea2f91e.pdf

    Study with 150 epileptic children, mean age 5.3 years old
    http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/102/6/1358.short

    As a Ketogenic author and health consultant, Maria Emmerich wrote this on her blog:
    “Our sons Micah and Kai spent their first years (2 for Micah, 1 for Kai) in a nutritionally limited environment (orphanage in Ethiopia). The caregivers there did the best they could with the resources they had but in a country with over 2 million orphans under the age of 18, this is a challenge. When we brought Micah and Kai home they didn’t even register on the height weight charts (1% or less). We immediately started them on the same diet that we ate (a well formulated ketogenic diet). The only change is they had a more traditional 3 meals a day for their growing bodies.

    Within 1 year on this well formulated ketogenic diet our sons had caught up to about 50% on the height weight charts. In 2 years they were 50-75%. They now grow like weeds and thrive.” – Craig and Maria Emmerich”

    The last half of this talks about a Ketogenic diet for healthy children. Interesting, someone sited the same article as a negative for raising children on a Ketogenic diet. The same person who said this diet would interfere with normal socialization of children.
    https://www.perfectketo.com/ketosis-for-children/

    WARNING: Snarky comments below

    PS. When someone implies children on a Ketogenic diet will become socially stunted because they do not eat all the sugar and junk food their friends eat, I can think of 2 responses.
    1. What if the child was diabetic, which they probably will be if they continue to eat junk food? Are you saying diabetic children are socially stunted? Do you really want to go there?
    2. As my father said : So, if all your friends decide to jump off a cliff, are you going to jump too? Just because the majority does something does not mean it is the best or even a good thing to do.
     
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    Kailee56 Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    One more source, The Charlie Foundation.
    https://charliefoundation.org/

    Their story:
    In 1993, 11 month old Charlie Abrahams developed difficult to control epilepsy. As a last resort, while Charlie was experiencing multiple daily seizures and multiple daily medications, his parents turned to a Ketogenic Diet for help. The diet worked. Charlie became seizure and drug free within a month. He was on the diet for five years and now eats whatever he wants. He has never had another seizure.

    The Charlie Foundation for Ketogenic Therapies was founded in 1994 to provide information about diet therapies for people with epilepsy, other neurological disorders and select cancers. Charlie Abrahams, pictured above, continues to be the inspiration for the foundation, working as a pre-school teacher, and proving that Epilepsy can be cured through Ketogenic Therapy

    In recent years, less restrictive versions of the Ketogenic Diet have been developed making it accessible to a larger segment of the epilepsy population (estimated at over 60 million people worldwide). Today there are over 200 hospitals worldwide with Ketogenic Diet programs. In the USA, advanced-level epilepsy treatment centers are required to provide Ketogenic Diet therapy
     
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    CathP Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I’ve no experience of epilepsy and a Keto diet, but just to reassure you that my now 7 year old type 1 daughter has been low carbing happily for the past 2 years, without physical or psychological harm!
     
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    wiflib Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    My dad used the ‘head in the fire’ line. I understood.
     
  9. Robbiebee

    Robbiebee Don't have diabetes · Newbie

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    I don't know whether keto diets for kids is good or not, but I am very concerned that kids (or anyone else who eats a keto diet that's put in front of them) eating keto, ie very low carb, high fat, is going to be put at risk of at the very least obesity if they then eat a high carb diet when socialising or eating away from home. It's always been my understanding that as you increase carbs you must compensate by reducing fat. Keto I think is too restrictive for those who don't medically need to be on it to sustain particularly when socialising, as kids do.
     
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